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LifeFLOW3D

2018-03-29T18:47:41Z

Eagle: /* Gameplay */ edit

'''''[http://life.worldsowisdom.com/flow3d/ LifeFLOW3D Digitarium]''''' lets you play with moving software creatures, as they explore their lush environments.

{{Gameinfo
|title = LifeFLOW3D
|image = File:LifeFLOW3D Digitarium - Level- Arcoiris I.png
|caption = LifeFLOW3D lets you play with moving software creatures, as they explore their lush environments.
|genre = [[:Category:Educational games|Educational]]
|developer = [http://worldsowisdom.com/ Worlds O Wisdom]
|code license = [[GPL]] 3.0
|media license = [[GPL]] 3.0
|engine = Blender Game Engine
|latest release = 2.0
|release date = March 29{{th}}, 2018
|release date iso = 2018-03-29
|release announcement = https://life.worldsowisdom.com/?q=node/194
|language = Python
|library =
|platform = Windows 64-bit available, cross-platform builds possible
|link homepage = http://life.worldsowisdom.com/flow3d
|link blog = http://life.worldsowisdom.com
|link chatweb =
|chat =
|link feed = https://life.worldsowisdom.com/?q=rss.xml
|link forum = https://worldsowisdom.com/?q=forum
|link pad =
|link project = https://gamejolt.com/games/lifeflow3d/314074
|link tracker =
|link scmweb = https://github.com/worldsowisdom/LifeFLOW3D
|scm = GitHub
}}

In LifeFLOW3D, you interact with various geometric systems that respond to your avatar. Kids learn about space and time, and get a feeling for exciting ways to play with colors and shapes.<ref>[http://life.worldsowisdom.com/flow3d Official website for LifeFLOW3D]</ref> It is released under the [[GNU General Public License|GPL 3.0]] license.<ref>[http://eaglegamma.com/LifeFLOW3D/src/ LifeFLOW3D source]</ref>

==Gameplay==

The game contains several levels. In each one, the player can steer an avatar with the arrow keys and PgUp/PgDn. Enter and the space bar provide special actions, often changing avatar shape. Tab and many other keys provide level-dependent ways of interacting with the creatures.

As the game progresses, the geometry travels through the environment, responsively interacting with the player. Which structures and motions develop reveals interesting insights.

==References==
{{reflist}}

[[Category:Educational games]]
[[Category:GPL games]]
[[Category:Child-oriented games]]

LifeFLOW3D

2018-03-29T18:41:51Z

Eagle: format intro

'''''[http://life.worldsowisdom.com/flow3d/ LifeFLOW3D Digitarium]''''' lets you play with moving software creatures, as they explore their lush environments.

{{Gameinfo
|title = LifeFLOW3D
|image = File:LifeFLOW3D Digitarium - Level- Arcoiris I.png
|caption = LifeFLOW3D lets you play with moving software creatures, as they explore their lush environments.
|genre = [[:Category:Educational games|Educational]]
|developer = [http://worldsowisdom.com/ Worlds O Wisdom]
|code license = [[GPL]] 3.0
|media license = [[GPL]] 3.0
|engine = Blender Game Engine
|latest release = 2.0
|release date = March 29{{th}}, 2018
|release date iso = 2018-03-29
|release announcement = https://life.worldsowisdom.com/?q=node/194
|language = Python
|library =
|platform = Windows 64-bit available, cross-platform builds possible
|link homepage = http://life.worldsowisdom.com/flow3d
|link blog = http://life.worldsowisdom.com
|link chatweb =
|chat =
|link feed = https://life.worldsowisdom.com/?q=rss.xml
|link forum = https://worldsowisdom.com/?q=forum
|link pad =
|link project = https://gamejolt.com/games/lifeflow3d/314074
|link tracker =
|link scmweb = https://github.com/worldsowisdom/LifeFLOW3D
|scm = GitHub
}}

In LifeFLOW3D, you interact with various geometric systems that respond to your avatar. Kids learn about space and time, and get a feeling for exciting ways to play with colors and shapes.<ref>[http://life.worldsowisdom.com/flow3d Official website for LifeFLOW3D]</ref> It is released under the [[GNU General Public License|GPL 3.0]] license.<ref>[http://eaglegamma.com/LifeFLOW3D/src/ LifeFLOW3D source]</ref>

==Gameplay==

The game contains several levels. In each one, the player can steer an avatar with the arrow keys and PgUp/PgDn. Enter and the space bar provide special actions, often changing shape. Tab and many other provide level-dependent ways of interacting with the creatures.

As the game progresses, the geometry travels through the environment, responsively interacting with the player. Which structures and motions develop reveals interesting insights.

==References==
{{reflist}}

[[Category:Educational games]]
[[Category:GPL games]]
[[Category:Child-oriented games]]

LifeFLOW3D

2018-03-29T18:41:15Z

Eagle: add Gameplay section

''''[http://life.worldsowisdom.com/flow3d/ LifeFLOW3D Digitarium]''''' lets you play with moving software creatures, as they explore their lush environments.

{{Gameinfo
|title = LifeFLOW3D
|image = File:LifeFLOW3D Digitarium - Level- Arcoiris I.png
|caption = LifeFLOW3D lets you play with moving software creatures, as they explore their lush environments.
|genre = [[:Category:Educational games|Educational]]
|developer = [http://worldsowisdom.com/ Worlds O Wisdom]
|code license = [[GPL]] 3.0
|media license = [[GPL]] 3.0
|engine = Blender Game Engine
|latest release = 2.0
|release date = March 29{{th}}, 2018
|release date iso = 2018-03-29
|release announcement = https://life.worldsowisdom.com/?q=node/194
|language = Python
|library =
|platform = Windows 64-bit available, cross-platform builds possible
|link homepage = http://life.worldsowisdom.com/flow3d
|link blog = http://life.worldsowisdom.com
|link chatweb =
|chat =
|link feed = https://life.worldsowisdom.com/?q=rss.xml
|link forum = https://worldsowisdom.com/?q=forum
|link pad =
|link project = https://gamejolt.com/games/lifeflow3d/314074
|link tracker =
|link scmweb = https://github.com/worldsowisdom/LifeFLOW3D
|scm = GitHub
}}

In LifeFLOW3D, you interact with various geometric systems that respond to your avatar. Kids learn about space and time, and get a feeling for exciting ways to play with colors and shapes.<ref>[http://life.worldsowisdom.com/flow3d Official website for LifeFLOW3D]</ref> It is released under the [[GNU General Public License|GPL 3.0]] license.<ref>[http://eaglegamma.com/LifeFLOW3D/src/ LifeFLOW3D source]</ref>

==Gameplay==

The game contains several levels. In each one, the player can steer an avatar with the arrow keys and PgUp/PgDn. Enter and the space bar provide special actions, often changing shape. Tab and many other provide level-dependent ways of interacting with the creatures.

As the game progresses, the geometry travels through the environment, responsively interacting with the player. Which structures and motions develop reveals interesting insights.

==References==
{{reflist}}

[[Category:Educational games]]
[[Category:GPL games]]
[[Category:Child-oriented games]]

LifeFLOW3D

2018-03-29T18:37:25Z

Eagle: add new release

''''[http://life.worldsowisdom.com/flow3d/ LifeFLOW3D Digitarium]''''' lets you play with moving software creatures, as they explore their lush environments.

{{Gameinfo
|title = LifeFLOW3D
|image = File:LifeFLOW3D Digitarium - Level- Arcoiris I.png
|caption = LifeFLOW3D lets you play with moving software creatures, as they explore their lush environments.
|genre = [[:Category:Educational games|Educational]]
|developer = [http://worldsowisdom.com/ Worlds O Wisdom]
|code license = [[GPL]] 3.0
|media license = [[GPL]] 3.0
|engine = Blender Game Engine
|latest release = 2.0
|release date = March 29{{th}}, 2018
|release date iso = 2018-03-29
|release announcement = https://life.worldsowisdom.com/?q=node/194
|language = Python
|library =
|platform = Windows 64-bit available, cross-platform builds possible
|link homepage = http://life.worldsowisdom.com/flow3d
|link blog = http://life.worldsowisdom.com
|link chatweb =
|chat =
|link feed = https://life.worldsowisdom.com/?q=rss.xml
|link forum = https://worldsowisdom.com/?q=forum
|link pad =
|link project = https://gamejolt.com/games/lifeflow3d/314074
|link tracker =
|link scmweb = https://github.com/worldsowisdom/LifeFLOW3D
|scm = GitHub
}}

In LifeFLOW3D, you interact with various geometric systems that respond to your avatar. Kids learn about space and time, and get a feeling for exciting ways to play with colors and shapes.<ref>[http://life.worldsowisdom.com/flow3d Official website for LifeFLOW3D]</ref> It is released under the [[GNU General Public License|GPL 3.0]] license.<ref>[http://eaglegamma.com/LifeFLOW3D/src/ LifeFLOW3D source]</ref>

==References==
{{reflist}}

[[Category:Educational games]]
[[Category:GPL games]]
[[Category:Child-oriented games]]

LifeFLOW3D

2018-02-28T15:40:26Z

Eagle: Describe link

'''''[http://life.worldsowisdom.com/flow3d/ LifeFLOW3D Digitarium]''''' lets you play with moving software creatures, as they explore their lush environments.

{{Gameinfo
|title = LifeFLOW3D
|image = File:LifeFLOW3D Digitarium - Level- Arcoiris I.png
|caption = LifeFLOW3D lets you play with moving software creatures, as they explore their lush environments.
|genre = [[:Category:Educational games|Educational]]
|developer = [http://worldsowisdom.com/ Worlds O Wisdom]
|code license = [[GPL]] 3.0
|media license = [[GPL]] 3.0
|engine = Blender Game Engine
|latest release = 1.0
|release date = January 25{{th}}, 2018
|release date iso = 2018-01-25
|release announcement = https://life.worldsowisdom.com/?q=node/180
|language = Python
|library =
|platform = Windows 64-bit available, cross-platform builds possible
|link homepage = http://life.worldsowisdom.com/flow3d
|link blog = http://life.worldsowisdom.com
|link chatweb =
|chat =
|link feed = https://life.worldsowisdom.com/?q=rss.xml
|link forum = https://worldsowisdom.com/?q=forum
|link pad =
|link project = https://gamejolt.com/games/lifeflow3d/314074
|link tracker =
|link scmweb = https://github.com/worldsowisdom/LifeFLOW3D
|scm = GitHub
}}

In LifeFLOW3D, you interact with various geometric systems that respond to your avatar. Kids learn about space and time, and get a feeling for exciting ways to play with colors and shapes.<ref>[http://life.worldsowisdom.com/flow3d Official website for LifeFLOW3D]</ref> It is released under the [[GNU General Public License|GPL 3.0]] license.<ref>[http://eaglegamma.com/LifeFLOW3D/src/ LifeFLOW3D source]</ref>

==References==
{{reflist}}

[[Category:Educational games]]
[[Category:GPL games]]
[[Category:Child-oriented games]]

LifeFLOW3D

2018-02-28T15:39:37Z

Eagle: Reference GPL source

'''''[http://life.worldsowisdom.com/flow3d/ LifeFLOW3D Digitarium]''''' lets you play with moving software creatures, as they explore their lush environments.

{{Gameinfo
|title = LifeFLOW3D
|image = File:LifeFLOW3D Digitarium - Level- Arcoiris I.png
|caption = LifeFLOW3D lets you play with moving software creatures, as they explore their lush environments.
|genre = [[:Category:Educational games|Educational]]
|developer = [http://worldsowisdom.com/ Worlds O Wisdom]
|code license = [[GPL]] 3.0
|media license = [[GPL]] 3.0
|engine = Blender Game Engine
|latest release = 1.0
|release date = January 25{{th}}, 2018
|release date iso = 2018-01-25
|release announcement = https://life.worldsowisdom.com/?q=node/180
|language = Python
|library =
|platform = Windows 64-bit available, cross-platform builds possible
|link homepage = http://life.worldsowisdom.com/flow3d
|link blog = http://life.worldsowisdom.com
|link chatweb =
|chat =
|link feed = https://life.worldsowisdom.com/?q=rss.xml
|link forum = https://worldsowisdom.com/?q=forum
|link pad =
|link project = https://gamejolt.com/games/lifeflow3d/314074
|link tracker =
|link scmweb = https://github.com/worldsowisdom/LifeFLOW3D
|scm = GitHub
}}

In LifeFLOW3D, you interact with various geometric systems that respond to your avatar. Kids learn about space and time, and get a feeling for exciting ways to play with colors and shapes.<ref>[http://life.worldsowisdom.com/flow3d Official website for LifeFLOW3D]</ref> It is released under the [[GNU General Public License|GPL 3.0]] license.<ref>[http://eaglegamma.com/LifeFLOW3D/src/]</ref>

==References==
{{reflist}}

[[Category:Educational games]]
[[Category:GPL games]]
[[Category:Child-oriented games]]

User talk:Hendrik Brummermann

2018-02-28T15:34:00Z

Eagle: /* LifeFLOW3D source */ new section

You can leave me a message here.

== Dawn ==

Dawn is now at https://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/dawn-rpg . This is dawn-rpg which you deleted some days back. https://libregamewiki.org/Dawn . It's also being packaged for Debian . See https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-games/2013/08/msg00100.html

: I restored the article. --[[User:Hendrik Brummermann|Hendrik Brummermann]] ([[User talk:Hendrik Brummermann|talk]]) 19:39, 26 August 2013 (CEST)

== Exclude new account creation from recent changes ==

Hi! Would it be possible to filter out the new accounts by default somehow? [[Special:Contributions/88.148.235.166|88.148.235.166]] 12:19, 28 January 2014 (CET)
:An imperfect solution: select 'User' for namespace and 'Invert selection', this gives almost what you want. -- [[User:StevenDH|StevenDH]] ([[User talk:StevenDH|talk]]) 23:10, 3 February 2014 (CET)

== Extension:HeadersFooters ==

You guys have a nice working version of the [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:HeadersFooters HeadersFooter] extension. I've tried to install it on 1.22.6 but it wont show up. Do you know if you had to make any changes to the existing files? --[[User:Rankersbo5|Rankersbo5]] ([[User talk:Rankersbo5|talk]]) 17:51, 27 April 2014 (CEST)

: We did make the change that is explaiend on the the talk page of [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_talk:HeadersFooters#MediaWiki_22.0_37375 Extension:HeadersFooters]. That change fixed the problem without any additional changes.

== Merry Grav-Mass! ==

https://stallman.org/grav-mass.html And thanks for your work on LGW. [[User:GNUbie|GNUbie]] ([[User talk:GNUbie|talk]]) 10:36, 19 December 2014 (CET)

== Red Eclipse free? ==

You said that Red Eclipse contains non-free assets, but I cannot find the offending license. http://redeclipse.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/redeclipse/doc/all-licenses.txt --[[User:Taknamay|Taknamay]] ([[User talk:Taknamay|talk]]) 02:18, 22 May 2015 (CEST)

: I am sorry, copyright laws work the other way round: Distribution is prohibited, unless there is a license which allows it. Right at the top of the linked files it says:
Files: bin/* src/include/* src/lib/* src/enet/* src/site/* src/xcode/*
game/mek/*
Copyright: Omitted
License: Omitted
:As there is no valid license for parts of the software, nobody is allowed to distribute it. --[[User:Hendrik Brummermann|Hendrik Brummermann]] ([[User talk:Hendrik Brummermann|talk]]) 05:16, 22 May 2015 (CEST)
::Thank you! I'm aware of how copyright law works in this respect, but I did not see where it specified that some parts were omitted. I see it now. I am surprised because I see the Red Eclipse package in Debian main. [[User:Taknamay|Taknamay]] ([[User talk:Taknamay|talk]]) 03:30, 26 May 2015 (CEST)
::Red Eclipse can compile with all of those directories completely removed, except src/enet which is MIT licensed (I just compiled it myself). Debian presumably does exactly this. Is it ok to add then? [[User:Taknamay|Taknamay]] ([[User talk:Taknamay|talk]]) 22:30, 17 December 2015 (CET)

== LifeFLOW3D source ==

Hendrik,

Thank you for the message. LifeFLOW3D is indeed open source under GPL. You can download the source [http://eaglegamma.com/LifeFLOW3D/src/1.0/ here].

Please let me know of anything else you'd like!

--[[User:Eagle|Eagle]] ([[User talk:Eagle|talk]]) 16:34, 28 February 2018 (CET)

LifeFLOW3D

2018-01-31T14:13:33Z

Eagle: add {{th}}

'''''[http://life.worldsowisdom.com/flow3d/ LifeFLOW3D Digitarium]''''' lets you play with moving software creatures, as they explore their lush environments.

{{Gameinfo
|title = LifeFLOW3D
|image = File:LifeFLOW3D Digitarium - Level- Arcoiris I.png
|caption = LifeFLOW3D lets you play with moving software creatures, as they explore their lush environments.
|genre = [[:Category:Educational games|Educational]]
|developer = [http://worldsowisdom.com/ Worlds O Wisdom]
|code license = [[GPL]] 3.0
|media license = [[GPL]] 3.0
|engine = Blender Game Engine
|latest release = 1.0
|release date = January 25{{th}}, 2018
|release date iso = 2018-01-25
|release announcement = https://life.worldsowisdom.com/?q=node/180
|language = Python
|library =
|platform = Windows 64-bit available, cross-platform builds possible
|link homepage = http://life.worldsowisdom.com/flow3d
|link blog = http://life.worldsowisdom.com
|link chatweb =
|chat =
|link feed = https://life.worldsowisdom.com/?q=rss.xml
|link forum = https://worldsowisdom.com/?q=forum
|link pad =
|link project = https://gamejolt.com/games/lifeflow3d/314074
|link tracker =
|link scmweb = https://github.com/worldsowisdom/LifeFLOW3D
|scm = GitHub
}}

In LifeFLOW3D, you interact with various geometric systems that respond to your avatar. Kids learn about space and time, and get a feeling for exciting ways to play with colors and shapes.<ref>[http://life.worldsowisdom.com/flow3d Official website for LifeFLOW3D]</ref> It is released under the [[GNU General Public License|GPL 3.0]] license.

==References==
{{reflist}}

[[Category:Educational games]]
[[Category:GPL games]]
[[Category:Child-oriented games]]

LifeFLOW3D

2018-01-31T14:07:15Z

Eagle: add release date iso

'''''[http://life.worldsowisdom.com/flow3d/ LifeFLOW3D Digitarium]''''' lets you play with moving software creatures, as they explore their lush environments.

{{Gameinfo
|title = LifeFLOW3D
|image = File:LifeFLOW3D Digitarium - Level- Arcoiris I.png
|caption = LifeFLOW3D lets you play with moving software creatures, as they explore their lush environments.
|genre = [[:Category:Educational games|Educational]]
|developer = [http://worldsowisdom.com/ Worlds O Wisdom]
|code license = [[GPL]] 3.0
|media license = [[GPL]] 3.0
|engine = Blender Game Engine
|latest release = 1.0
|release date = January 25, 2018
|release date iso = 2018-01-25
|release announcement = https://life.worldsowisdom.com/?q=node/180
|language = Python
|library =
|platform = Windows 64-bit available, cross-platform builds possible
|link homepage = http://life.worldsowisdom.com/flow3d
|link blog = http://life.worldsowisdom.com
|link chatweb =
|chat =
|link feed = https://life.worldsowisdom.com/?q=rss.xml
|link forum = https://worldsowisdom.com/?q=forum
|link pad =
|link project = https://gamejolt.com/games/lifeflow3d/314074
|link tracker =
|link scmweb = https://github.com/worldsowisdom/LifeFLOW3D
|scm = GitHub
}}

In LifeFLOW3D, you interact with various geometric systems that respond to your avatar. Kids learn about space and time, and get a feeling for exciting ways to play with colors and shapes.<ref>[http://life.worldsowisdom.com/flow3d Official website for LifeFLOW3D]</ref> It is released under the [[GNU General Public License|GPL 3.0]] license.

==References==
{{reflist}}

[[Category:Educational games]]
[[Category:GPL games]]
[[Category:Child-oriented games]]

Libregamewiki:Community portal

2018-01-27T17:57:44Z

Eagle: /* How to add games to genre listings? */ add clarification

Here is a place to discuss ideas and coordinate improvments to the LibreGameWiki itself.

Please use a number of :-characters at the beginning of your paragraph to indent it. You can sign your edits by using the second but last button in the toolbar.

Feel free to [https://libregamewiki.org/index.php?title=Libregamewiki:Community_portal&action=edit&section=new ask] questions on this page. By the way, do you know the [[Libregamewiki:The classroom|FAQ]] and [[Libregamewiki:Article policy‎|Article policy‎]]?

__NEWSECTIONLINK__

== How do we make it easier for potential contributors to help? ==

How can we make it easier for potential contributors to help? Since the beginning of October account creation works without red tape again. This is a great step forward. Is there anything we can do to further improve the articles explaining how to contribute?
:Well, for once, we might want to fix the following explanation, which I see whenever I try to create a new page, hours after creating my account: "If you just created a new account, please wait a couple of minutes". :)
:[Edit: now I can create the page fine. Thank you.]

== Main Page ==
I think it may be a good idea to have a little paragraph at the top of the main page which explains what LibreGameWiki is.
:The front page links to [[Libregamewiki]] which is currently outdated, the main page could have a summary with more detail on that page. [[User:Kymara|Kymara]] ([[User talk:Kymara|talk]]) 12:31, 6 October 2012 (CEST)
Shall we have a small "How to contribute?" or "Help wanted" section on the main page which links to the relevant articles? What would it look like?
:Yes. It should link to an updated [[Libregamewiki:Article_policy]] and [[List of games]] [[User:Kymara|Kymara]] ([[User talk:Kymara|talk]]) 12:31, 6 October 2012 (CEST)
: There could also be a portal for this in the side bar. [[User:Kymara|Kymara]] ([[User talk:Kymara|talk]]) 12:47, 6 October 2012 (CEST)

== Which article should be featured next? ==

There is quite a number of very good articles. I think we should change the featured article on the main page more frequently to draw attention to them.

:Yes, I already asked a recent productive user, [[User:GNUbie|GNUbie]] for his thoughts for the next one. Generally, we should ask the wider community to help choose somehow. [[User:Kymara|Kymara]] ([[User talk:Kymara|talk]]) 12:32, 6 October 2012 (CEST)

== Engines for non-free games with no free games using them ==

Hi. Should free remakes of engines for non-free games be accepted as free engines, if they have never been (and not necessarily intended to be) used for a playable free game yet? Examples: [[OpenMW]], [http://www.etlegacy.com/ Enemy Territory: Legacy]. --[[User:AVRS|AVRS]] ([[User talk:AVRS|talk]]) 12:35, 28 November 2012 (CET)
:My two pence: I'd class those as free engines. Their use case is irrelevant, and it could be considered as a matter of timing, for example: a free engine which was created and then later used for a non-free game doesn't make the engine non-free.[[User:Kymara|Kymara]] ([[User talk:Kymara|talk]]) 12:46, 28 November 2012 (CET)

== Game articles redirecting to genre list ==

I'm seeing odd behavior. If I try to go to the following articles:

* https://libregamewiki.org/Freedroid_RPG
* https://libregamewiki.org/PARPG

I get redirected to the RPG genre page:

https://libregamewiki.org/Role-playing_games

If I use non-rewrite links, however, they seem to work.

* https://libregamewiki.org/index.php?title=Freedroid_RPG
* https://libregamewiki.org/index.php?title=PARPG

Could there perhaps be an error in the URL rewriting rules?

--[[User:Cov|Cov]] ([[User talk:Cov|talk]]) 22:33, 31 August 2013 (CEST)

: Thank you for the report. I fixed it. --[[User:Hendrik Brummermann|Hendrik Brummermann]] ([[User talk:Hendrik Brummermann|talk]]) 17:04, 8 September 2013 (CEST)

==License Choice==

The CC-BY is a non-copyleft license, and unless I'm mistaken, the GFDL is a copyleft license, which is why CC-BY-SA was chosen for Wikipedia when it dual-licensed to make it compatible with other CC sites. If I'm correct, this wiki is currently under two licenses which contradict each other on the question of copyleft, which is confusing. Why wasn't the CC-BY-SA license chosen for LGW? This would allow relevant to content to be imported from and exported to Wikipedia and other CC-BY-SA sites (with appropriate attribution of course). --[[User:Strypey|Strypey]] ([[User talk:Strypey|talk]]) 08:04, 11 January 2014 (CET)

: The CC-BY was chosen to make it easy for third parties to use content from LibreGameWiki. The GFDL was considered non-free by Debian and Debian is quite an authority as the Open Source Definition is based on Debian guidelines. It was kept as alternative to make it easy to copy content from LibreGameWiki to Wikipedia. Wikipedia and the FSF later pulled a stunt of releasing a new version of the GFDL with the Lex Wikipedia clause, allowing Wikipedia to move to a completely different license. LGW content, however, was licensed as GFDL 1.2 without the backdoor "or later". And personally, after this stunt, I don't think "or later" is a good idea at all. --[[User:Gamfan|Gamfan]] ([[User talk:Gamfan|talk]]) 08:16, 11 January 2014 (CET)

:: For the record, the change to the GFDL was made to allow Wikipedia (and other multi-collaborator works) to dual-license with CC-BY-SA, which is identical to the GFDL where it counts (eg attribution, copyleft), although it happens to lacks the "invariant sections" and "transparency" terms that made Debian declare the GFDL non-free. Both CC-BY and CC-BY-SA are free culture licenses: http://creativecommons.org/freeworks Practically speaking, the purpose of having a wiki under a license is to inform the user about what they can and can't do with its contents. The GFDL tells the user they must put derivative works under the same license (copyleft), while the CC-BY says they don't. This is confusing. Can I use sections of LGW within an ARR (All-Rights-Reserved) work or not? Is this wiki copyleft, or it isn't? If it is copyleft, shouldn't the CC-BY-SA needs to be used to let the user know that? If it isn't copyleft, shouldn't the GFDL be dropped to make this clear? --[[User:Strypey|Strypey]] ([[User talk:Strypey|talk]]) 05:49, 12 January 2014 (CET)

::: It is very simple: If you you contribute to LibreGameWiki, you must license your work as CC-BY und GFDL. If you want to use content from LGW, you can pick the license you want to comply with. Please keep in mind that copyleft is only one of the difference between the licenses (please read the full text of both licenses to learn about other demands required by each of the licenses). --[[User:Gamfan|Gamfan]] ([[User talk:Gamfan|talk]]) 13:21, 12 January 2014 (CET)

:::: I intended to answer, but I got an edit conflict earlier. Anyway, some points:
::::* Being CC-BY licensed, this wiki's text can be contributed to Wikipedia if properly attributed: see [http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Frequently_Asked_Questions#Can_I_include_a_work_licensed_with_CC_BY_in_a_Wikipedia_article_even_though_they_use_a_CC_BY-SA_license.3F CC FAQ] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Compatible_license#Can_I_add_something_to_Wikipedia_that_I_got_from_somewhere_else.3F Wikipedia copyright FAQ].
::::*Wikipedia is not entirely dual-licensed: all of it is available under CC-BY-SA (except the ''fairly used'' stuff). On the other hand, the GFDL does not necessarily apply to text added after the project voted to use the CC license - you have to check this yourself if you'd like to use a Wikipedia article under the GFDL.

:::::: I'm pretty sure this is incorrect. When I edit Wikipedia it says "By clicking the "Save page" button, you agree to the Terms of Use and you irrevocably agree to release your contribution under the CC BY-SA 3.0 License *and* the GFDL..." (emphasis mine) --[[User:Strypey|Strypey]] ([[User talk:Strypey|talk]]) 10:50, 6 November 2015 (CET)

::::*As I recall, Debian only considers the GFDL non-free if there are invariant sections involved, see [http://www.debian.org/vote/2006/vote_001 this vote]. What is the problematic "transparency" term?
::::*The lack of a "or later" clause precludes our stuff from being used in the [http://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Main_Page Free Software Directory]. This may be a pity, because their goal is rather similar to ours. -- [[User:StevenDH|StevenDH]] ([[User talk:StevenDH|talk]]) 19:40, 12 January 2014 (CET)

:::::: Is the copyright in LGW content owned by the original author(s) or the project? If there was a consensus among all LGW copyright holders, the content could be relicensed under any license they choose. This would not revoke previous licenses on the same content, but would apply to all existing content, and only the new license would apply to new content. As I said initially, I can't see the benefit of using CC-BY for a collaborative reference wiki, and I think CC-BY-SA would be a better choice, as it means any improvements made in derivative works are available to be backported into LGW. --[[User:Strypey|Strypey]] ([[User talk:Strypey|talk]]) 10:50, 6 November 2015 (CET)

== Libregamewiki uses an invalid security certificate ==

Hi, I do not know if the Community portal is the right place to report this type of problem. But I have not been able to find any better place.

When connecting to libregamewiki, some web-browsers (Mozilla based: firefox, iceweasel, icecat, seamonkey etc.) displays a warning page stating "This Connection is Untrusted". I have tested this on several computers with several browsers with both GNU/Linux and Windows OS, so it seems to be a problem that applies to everyone that uses these browsers.

The following details are given:

-libregamewiki.org uses an invalid security certificate.

-The certificate is not trusted because no issuer chain was provided.

-(Error code: sec_error_unknown_issuer)

--[[User:LibreGamer|Hurdman]] ([[User talk:LibreGamer|talk]]) 15:34, 8 February 2015 (CET)

: As of March 21, 2015 this problem no longer occurs. I am guessing that the security certificate has been updated. --[[User:LibreGamer|Hurdman]] ([[User talk:LibreGamer|talk]]) 14:06, 21 March 2015 (CET)

== A few things: Thanks for fighting spam ==
Hopefully the Argentinian/Brazilian wiki spammers have no places left...

I am inquiring about the Public Domain version of Rogue,
and the BSD version of Rogue.

I posess a copy of the Public Domain version of Rogue,
and have screen shots of the screens, which wikisneeripedia
seems not able to read 'Public Domain."

If need be, I can contact either Michael Toy or Glenn Wichman ( who published the sources to the PC Version/Commercial version) about
verifying the public domain version is indeed the public domain version.

== Article looks like ... data corruption?! ==

The article [[SDL_games]] is messed up. Even the old version that was ok some months ago is ... corrupted? --[[User:Gegxt|Gegxt]] ([[User talk:Gegxt|talk]]) 16:52, 27 July 2015 (CEST)

: Could you specify what looks corrupted? To me the article looks fine. [[User:LibreGamer|LibreGamer]] ([[User talk:LibreGamer|talk]]) 17:46, 31 July 2015 (CEST)

::Now I see it. It was only visible if one views the article after logging in. When not logged in the article looks fine. [[User:LibreGamer|LibreGamer]] ([[User talk:LibreGamer|talk]]) 17:46, 31 July 2015 (CEST)

:: I fixed the template, thanks for the hint. --[[User:Hendrik Brummermann|Hendrik Brummermann]] ([[User talk:Hendrik Brummermann|talk]]) 19:18, 31 July 2015 (CEST)

::: I can confirm the fix. Thanks for fixing. (section can be deleted / archived) --[[User:Gegxt|Gegxt]] ([[User talk:Gegxt|talk]]) 14:38, 8 August 2015 (CEST)

== Copying from Wikipedia ==

I note the warning at the bottom of edit pages not to copy from Wikipedia. I'm assuming this is out of date, as Wikipedia is now dual-licensed under CC-BY-SA 3.0? If so, it would be good to remove that warning, as there is a lot of useful material about libre games that could be imported to this wiki.

This is particularly important in view of the massive pruning of Wikipedia that appears to be going on, with many articles being deleted on the basis that their subject is not "notable" enough to have a page in an Encyclopedia. This problem has disturbed Wikipedians enough that one (or a group?) has set up the [http://speedydeletion.wikia.com/wiki/Speedy_deletion_Wiki SpeedyDeletion] wiki to rescue pages before they are removed, in case their contents are still of interest to other wikis like this one.
--[[User:Strypey|Strypey]] ([[User talk:Strypey|talk]]) 06:17, 6 October 2015 (CEST)

:Hi there. I'm afraid the warning has to remain as this wiki is cc-by or gfdl and wikipedia is cc-by-sa. (If you combine those cc license, the end result is the stricter of those, i.e. the one used by wikipedia) [[User:GNUbie|GNUbie]] ([[User talk:GNUbie|talk]]) 13:59, 12 October 2015 (CEST)

::Oops! I didn't notice the lack of the "SA" part of the LGW license when I made this post, and I totally forgot I already started a discussion about license choice further up. As I said there, all Wikipedia content is licensed under both CC-BY-SA *and* GPFDL. If content was imported from Wikipedia, it would have to be marked as such, to indicate that it can't not be used under CC-BY. --[[User:Strypey|Strypey]] ([[User talk:Strypey|talk]]) 10:40, 6 November 2015 (CET)

== Posting images ==

Hi!
I try to help someone to edit his game's page. Yesterday, his IP was block cause abuse (probably tried to much html lines to make edit as he wanted). I looked all around your site to understand how to post an image through your site, and choose categories for his game, but found nothing about it. Is there somewhere an option to make it directly?
-How upload an image on your site (I think it will be ok to post it on the edit of the game's page, but would be appreciated to have the exact html line to be sure)
-How to add categories for a game.

P.S.: maybe there is an error on the chat... you let us know that we can connect as guest, but all times I tried, this don't work, cause I don't have a nickname.

Thanks a lot in advance for your help!

Answers could be send to tricotvanille2003@hotmail.com, or directly to the member Electro l.i.b

== Spam & blocking users/IP ==

On the "Recent changes" page, I see there's a lot of spam-fighting going on. It's good that LGW is being valiantly defended against the incessant spam bots, but I think the Abuse filter is sometimes a little quick to block well meaning users. The anonymous user recently working on the Liberated Pixel Cup page, and two weeks ago even the registered user Lanadapter got on the block list, presumably because they made a series of small edits in a short time. Would it be possible to differentiate a bit better between real editors and spammer, so that we don't turn down actual contributors (while keeping the spam out, of course)? -- [[User:StevenDH|StevenDH]] ([[User talk:StevenDH|talk]]) 15:24, 14 February 2017 (CET)

== Lists and categories ==

Wouldn't be better to direct the reader to categories of games, instead of lists of games by genre, like [[Roguelike games]]? The list can get easily outdated.

== Board games page broken ==

When I'm logged in, I can see an up-to-date version of [[Board games]], but when I'm not logged in, I can only see a very old version from 2013. Could the reason be that this page was protected in 2012? If yes, could you remove the protection or ensure otherwise that the autogeneration by the bot works again and the generated page is visible to all users? Thanks --[[User:Blokusguy|Blokusguy]] ([[User talk:Blokusguy|talk]]) 07:42, 29 July 2017 (CEST)

== How to add a game? ==

At the moment new users don't get a confirmation mail and cannot create new pages. If you want to create a new article write a message to the user jens with the name of the game and the article will be created by him. Editing articles is possible without getting a confirmation mail.

# Please [[Special:CreateAccount|create an account]] with mail adress and confirm that you own the mail adress. The create account link is also available in the upper right corner. There may be traps against spammer. Read the pages after sending a request for login creation or changing a page!
# Read the [[Libregamewiki:Article_policy|Article policy]] and other articles from [[Libregamewiki:Get_involved|Get involved]]
# Make sure you are logged in
# Enter the title of the new page in the search box in the upper right corner and search for it. Before the search results, if there are some, there is a bold line with "Create the page "Example game name" on this wiki!" (I searched for "Example game name"). The "Example game name" is a link for creating a new page. If this line doesn't appear, make sure you clicked the confirmation link in the confirmation mail.
# When creating a new page, there are links to templates for games, humans and redirects above the big text box. Click on a template before entering text.
# If the link to the game home page isn't shown in the text add a == External Links == section with the URL

== Unable to auto confirm account ==

I can't create pages add I'm a member of group Users but not Auto confirmed Users. I didn't receive a confirmation message. I tried changing my email address but still no. Can you resend a confirmation message or confirm my account? Thanks! Eagle

:I'm now an Auto Confirmed Users group, not sure how that happened exactly. --[[User:Eagle|Eagle]] ([[User talk:Eagle|talk]]) 18:56, 27 January 2018 (CET)

== How to add games to genre listings? ==

How to add a game ([[LifeFLOW3D]]) to the genre listings page, [[Educational games]] and [[GPL games]]? Or does that happen on its own after the game has been added to the appropriate category? Thank you! :) --[[User:Eagle|Eagle]] ([[User talk:Eagle|talk]]) 18:55, 27 January 2018 (CET)

Libregamewiki:Community portal

2018-01-27T17:56:21Z

Eagle: /* Unable to auto confirm account */ resolve

Here is a place to discuss ideas and coordinate improvments to the LibreGameWiki itself.

Please use a number of :-characters at the beginning of your paragraph to indent it. You can sign your edits by using the second but last button in the toolbar.

Feel free to [https://libregamewiki.org/index.php?title=Libregamewiki:Community_portal&action=edit&section=new ask] questions on this page. By the way, do you know the [[Libregamewiki:The classroom|FAQ]] and [[Libregamewiki:Article policy‎|Article policy‎]]?

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== How do we make it easier for potential contributors to help? ==

How can we make it easier for potential contributors to help? Since the beginning of October account creation works without red tape again. This is a great step forward. Is there anything we can do to further improve the articles explaining how to contribute?
:Well, for once, we might want to fix the following explanation, which I see whenever I try to create a new page, hours after creating my account: "If you just created a new account, please wait a couple of minutes". :)
:[Edit: now I can create the page fine. Thank you.]

== Main Page ==
I think it may be a good idea to have a little paragraph at the top of the main page which explains what LibreGameWiki is.
:The front page links to [[Libregamewiki]] which is currently outdated, the main page could have a summary with more detail on that page. [[User:Kymara|Kymara]] ([[User talk:Kymara|talk]]) 12:31, 6 October 2012 (CEST)
Shall we have a small "How to contribute?" or "Help wanted" section on the main page which links to the relevant articles? What would it look like?
:Yes. It should link to an updated [[Libregamewiki:Article_policy]] and [[List of games]] [[User:Kymara|Kymara]] ([[User talk:Kymara|talk]]) 12:31, 6 October 2012 (CEST)
: There could also be a portal for this in the side bar. [[User:Kymara|Kymara]] ([[User talk:Kymara|talk]]) 12:47, 6 October 2012 (CEST)

== Which article should be featured next? ==

There is quite a number of very good articles. I think we should change the featured article on the main page more frequently to draw attention to them.

:Yes, I already asked a recent productive user, [[User:GNUbie|GNUbie]] for his thoughts for the next one. Generally, we should ask the wider community to help choose somehow. [[User:Kymara|Kymara]] ([[User talk:Kymara|talk]]) 12:32, 6 October 2012 (CEST)

== Engines for non-free games with no free games using them ==

Hi. Should free remakes of engines for non-free games be accepted as free engines, if they have never been (and not necessarily intended to be) used for a playable free game yet? Examples: [[OpenMW]], [http://www.etlegacy.com/ Enemy Territory: Legacy]. --[[User:AVRS|AVRS]] ([[User talk:AVRS|talk]]) 12:35, 28 November 2012 (CET)
:My two pence: I'd class those as free engines. Their use case is irrelevant, and it could be considered as a matter of timing, for example: a free engine which was created and then later used for a non-free game doesn't make the engine non-free.[[User:Kymara|Kymara]] ([[User talk:Kymara|talk]]) 12:46, 28 November 2012 (CET)

== Game articles redirecting to genre list ==

I'm seeing odd behavior. If I try to go to the following articles:

* https://libregamewiki.org/Freedroid_RPG
* https://libregamewiki.org/PARPG

I get redirected to the RPG genre page:

https://libregamewiki.org/Role-playing_games

If I use non-rewrite links, however, they seem to work.

* https://libregamewiki.org/index.php?title=Freedroid_RPG
* https://libregamewiki.org/index.php?title=PARPG

Could there perhaps be an error in the URL rewriting rules?

--[[User:Cov|Cov]] ([[User talk:Cov|talk]]) 22:33, 31 August 2013 (CEST)

: Thank you for the report. I fixed it. --[[User:Hendrik Brummermann|Hendrik Brummermann]] ([[User talk:Hendrik Brummermann|talk]]) 17:04, 8 September 2013 (CEST)

==License Choice==

The CC-BY is a non-copyleft license, and unless I'm mistaken, the GFDL is a copyleft license, which is why CC-BY-SA was chosen for Wikipedia when it dual-licensed to make it compatible with other CC sites. If I'm correct, this wiki is currently under two licenses which contradict each other on the question of copyleft, which is confusing. Why wasn't the CC-BY-SA license chosen for LGW? This would allow relevant to content to be imported from and exported to Wikipedia and other CC-BY-SA sites (with appropriate attribution of course). --[[User:Strypey|Strypey]] ([[User talk:Strypey|talk]]) 08:04, 11 January 2014 (CET)

: The CC-BY was chosen to make it easy for third parties to use content from LibreGameWiki. The GFDL was considered non-free by Debian and Debian is quite an authority as the Open Source Definition is based on Debian guidelines. It was kept as alternative to make it easy to copy content from LibreGameWiki to Wikipedia. Wikipedia and the FSF later pulled a stunt of releasing a new version of the GFDL with the Lex Wikipedia clause, allowing Wikipedia to move to a completely different license. LGW content, however, was licensed as GFDL 1.2 without the backdoor "or later". And personally, after this stunt, I don't think "or later" is a good idea at all. --[[User:Gamfan|Gamfan]] ([[User talk:Gamfan|talk]]) 08:16, 11 January 2014 (CET)

:: For the record, the change to the GFDL was made to allow Wikipedia (and other multi-collaborator works) to dual-license with CC-BY-SA, which is identical to the GFDL where it counts (eg attribution, copyleft), although it happens to lacks the "invariant sections" and "transparency" terms that made Debian declare the GFDL non-free. Both CC-BY and CC-BY-SA are free culture licenses: http://creativecommons.org/freeworks Practically speaking, the purpose of having a wiki under a license is to inform the user about what they can and can't do with its contents. The GFDL tells the user they must put derivative works under the same license (copyleft), while the CC-BY says they don't. This is confusing. Can I use sections of LGW within an ARR (All-Rights-Reserved) work or not? Is this wiki copyleft, or it isn't? If it is copyleft, shouldn't the CC-BY-SA needs to be used to let the user know that? If it isn't copyleft, shouldn't the GFDL be dropped to make this clear? --[[User:Strypey|Strypey]] ([[User talk:Strypey|talk]]) 05:49, 12 January 2014 (CET)

::: It is very simple: If you you contribute to LibreGameWiki, you must license your work as CC-BY und GFDL. If you want to use content from LGW, you can pick the license you want to comply with. Please keep in mind that copyleft is only one of the difference between the licenses (please read the full text of both licenses to learn about other demands required by each of the licenses). --[[User:Gamfan|Gamfan]] ([[User talk:Gamfan|talk]]) 13:21, 12 January 2014 (CET)

:::: I intended to answer, but I got an edit conflict earlier. Anyway, some points:
::::* Being CC-BY licensed, this wiki's text can be contributed to Wikipedia if properly attributed: see [http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Frequently_Asked_Questions#Can_I_include_a_work_licensed_with_CC_BY_in_a_Wikipedia_article_even_though_they_use_a_CC_BY-SA_license.3F CC FAQ] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Compatible_license#Can_I_add_something_to_Wikipedia_that_I_got_from_somewhere_else.3F Wikipedia copyright FAQ].
::::*Wikipedia is not entirely dual-licensed: all of it is available under CC-BY-SA (except the ''fairly used'' stuff). On the other hand, the GFDL does not necessarily apply to text added after the project voted to use the CC license - you have to check this yourself if you'd like to use a Wikipedia article under the GFDL.

:::::: I'm pretty sure this is incorrect. When I edit Wikipedia it says "By clicking the "Save page" button, you agree to the Terms of Use and you irrevocably agree to release your contribution under the CC BY-SA 3.0 License *and* the GFDL..." (emphasis mine) --[[User:Strypey|Strypey]] ([[User talk:Strypey|talk]]) 10:50, 6 November 2015 (CET)

::::*As I recall, Debian only considers the GFDL non-free if there are invariant sections involved, see [http://www.debian.org/vote/2006/vote_001 this vote]. What is the problematic "transparency" term?
::::*The lack of a "or later" clause precludes our stuff from being used in the [http://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Main_Page Free Software Directory]. This may be a pity, because their goal is rather similar to ours. -- [[User:StevenDH|StevenDH]] ([[User talk:StevenDH|talk]]) 19:40, 12 January 2014 (CET)

:::::: Is the copyright in LGW content owned by the original author(s) or the project? If there was a consensus among all LGW copyright holders, the content could be relicensed under any license they choose. This would not revoke previous licenses on the same content, but would apply to all existing content, and only the new license would apply to new content. As I said initially, I can't see the benefit of using CC-BY for a collaborative reference wiki, and I think CC-BY-SA would be a better choice, as it means any improvements made in derivative works are available to be backported into LGW. --[[User:Strypey|Strypey]] ([[User talk:Strypey|talk]]) 10:50, 6 November 2015 (CET)

== Libregamewiki uses an invalid security certificate ==

Hi, I do not know if the Community portal is the right place to report this type of problem. But I have not been able to find any better place.

When connecting to libregamewiki, some web-browsers (Mozilla based: firefox, iceweasel, icecat, seamonkey etc.) displays a warning page stating "This Connection is Untrusted". I have tested this on several computers with several browsers with both GNU/Linux and Windows OS, so it seems to be a problem that applies to everyone that uses these browsers.

The following details are given:

-libregamewiki.org uses an invalid security certificate.

-The certificate is not trusted because no issuer chain was provided.

-(Error code: sec_error_unknown_issuer)

--[[User:LibreGamer|Hurdman]] ([[User talk:LibreGamer|talk]]) 15:34, 8 February 2015 (CET)

: As of March 21, 2015 this problem no longer occurs. I am guessing that the security certificate has been updated. --[[User:LibreGamer|Hurdman]] ([[User talk:LibreGamer|talk]]) 14:06, 21 March 2015 (CET)

== A few things: Thanks for fighting spam ==
Hopefully the Argentinian/Brazilian wiki spammers have no places left...

I am inquiring about the Public Domain version of Rogue,
and the BSD version of Rogue.

I posess a copy of the Public Domain version of Rogue,
and have screen shots of the screens, which wikisneeripedia
seems not able to read 'Public Domain."

If need be, I can contact either Michael Toy or Glenn Wichman ( who published the sources to the PC Version/Commercial version) about
verifying the public domain version is indeed the public domain version.

== Article looks like ... data corruption?! ==

The article [[SDL_games]] is messed up. Even the old version that was ok some months ago is ... corrupted? --[[User:Gegxt|Gegxt]] ([[User talk:Gegxt|talk]]) 16:52, 27 July 2015 (CEST)

: Could you specify what looks corrupted? To me the article looks fine. [[User:LibreGamer|LibreGamer]] ([[User talk:LibreGamer|talk]]) 17:46, 31 July 2015 (CEST)

::Now I see it. It was only visible if one views the article after logging in. When not logged in the article looks fine. [[User:LibreGamer|LibreGamer]] ([[User talk:LibreGamer|talk]]) 17:46, 31 July 2015 (CEST)

:: I fixed the template, thanks for the hint. --[[User:Hendrik Brummermann|Hendrik Brummermann]] ([[User talk:Hendrik Brummermann|talk]]) 19:18, 31 July 2015 (CEST)

::: I can confirm the fix. Thanks for fixing. (section can be deleted / archived) --[[User:Gegxt|Gegxt]] ([[User talk:Gegxt|talk]]) 14:38, 8 August 2015 (CEST)

== Copying from Wikipedia ==

I note the warning at the bottom of edit pages not to copy from Wikipedia. I'm assuming this is out of date, as Wikipedia is now dual-licensed under CC-BY-SA 3.0? If so, it would be good to remove that warning, as there is a lot of useful material about libre games that could be imported to this wiki.

This is particularly important in view of the massive pruning of Wikipedia that appears to be going on, with many articles being deleted on the basis that their subject is not "notable" enough to have a page in an Encyclopedia. This problem has disturbed Wikipedians enough that one (or a group?) has set up the [http://speedydeletion.wikia.com/wiki/Speedy_deletion_Wiki SpeedyDeletion] wiki to rescue pages before they are removed, in case their contents are still of interest to other wikis like this one.
--[[User:Strypey|Strypey]] ([[User talk:Strypey|talk]]) 06:17, 6 October 2015 (CEST)

:Hi there. I'm afraid the warning has to remain as this wiki is cc-by or gfdl and wikipedia is cc-by-sa. (If you combine those cc license, the end result is the stricter of those, i.e. the one used by wikipedia) [[User:GNUbie|GNUbie]] ([[User talk:GNUbie|talk]]) 13:59, 12 October 2015 (CEST)

::Oops! I didn't notice the lack of the "SA" part of the LGW license when I made this post, and I totally forgot I already started a discussion about license choice further up. As I said there, all Wikipedia content is licensed under both CC-BY-SA *and* GPFDL. If content was imported from Wikipedia, it would have to be marked as such, to indicate that it can't not be used under CC-BY. --[[User:Strypey|Strypey]] ([[User talk:Strypey|talk]]) 10:40, 6 November 2015 (CET)

== Posting images ==

Hi!
I try to help someone to edit his game's page. Yesterday, his IP was block cause abuse (probably tried to much html lines to make edit as he wanted). I looked all around your site to understand how to post an image through your site, and choose categories for his game, but found nothing about it. Is there somewhere an option to make it directly?
-How upload an image on your site (I think it will be ok to post it on the edit of the game's page, but would be appreciated to have the exact html line to be sure)
-How to add categories for a game.

P.S.: maybe there is an error on the chat... you let us know that we can connect as guest, but all times I tried, this don't work, cause I don't have a nickname.

Thanks a lot in advance for your help!

Answers could be send to tricotvanille2003@hotmail.com, or directly to the member Electro l.i.b

== Spam & blocking users/IP ==

On the "Recent changes" page, I see there's a lot of spam-fighting going on. It's good that LGW is being valiantly defended against the incessant spam bots, but I think the Abuse filter is sometimes a little quick to block well meaning users. The anonymous user recently working on the Liberated Pixel Cup page, and two weeks ago even the registered user Lanadapter got on the block list, presumably because they made a series of small edits in a short time. Would it be possible to differentiate a bit better between real editors and spammer, so that we don't turn down actual contributors (while keeping the spam out, of course)? -- [[User:StevenDH|StevenDH]] ([[User talk:StevenDH|talk]]) 15:24, 14 February 2017 (CET)

== Lists and categories ==

Wouldn't be better to direct the reader to categories of games, instead of lists of games by genre, like [[Roguelike games]]? The list can get easily outdated.

== Board games page broken ==

When I'm logged in, I can see an up-to-date version of [[Board games]], but when I'm not logged in, I can only see a very old version from 2013. Could the reason be that this page was protected in 2012? If yes, could you remove the protection or ensure otherwise that the autogeneration by the bot works again and the generated page is visible to all users? Thanks --[[User:Blokusguy|Blokusguy]] ([[User talk:Blokusguy|talk]]) 07:42, 29 July 2017 (CEST)

== How to add a game? ==

At the moment new users don't get a confirmation mail and cannot create new pages. If you want to create a new article write a message to the user jens with the name of the game and the article will be created by him. Editing articles is possible without getting a confirmation mail.

# Please [[Special:CreateAccount|create an account]] with mail adress and confirm that you own the mail adress. The create account link is also available in the upper right corner. There may be traps against spammer. Read the pages after sending a request for login creation or changing a page!
# Read the [[Libregamewiki:Article_policy|Article policy]] and other articles from [[Libregamewiki:Get_involved|Get involved]]
# Make sure you are logged in
# Enter the title of the new page in the search box in the upper right corner and search for it. Before the search results, if there are some, there is a bold line with "Create the page "Example game name" on this wiki!" (I searched for "Example game name"). The "Example game name" is a link for creating a new page. If this line doesn't appear, make sure you clicked the confirmation link in the confirmation mail.
# When creating a new page, there are links to templates for games, humans and redirects above the big text box. Click on a template before entering text.
# If the link to the game home page isn't shown in the text add a == External Links == section with the URL

== Unable to auto confirm account ==

I can't create pages add I'm a member of group Users but not Auto confirmed Users. I didn't receive a confirmation message. I tried changing my email address but still no. Can you resend a confirmation message or confirm my account? Thanks! Eagle

:I'm now an Auto Confirmed Users group, not sure how that happened exactly. --[[User:Eagle|Eagle]] ([[User talk:Eagle|talk]]) 18:56, 27 January 2018 (CET)

== How to add games to genre listings? ==

How to add a game ([[LifeFLOW3D]]) to the genre listings page, [[Educational games]] and [[GPL games]]? Thank you! :) --[[User:Eagle|Eagle]] ([[User talk:Eagle|talk]]) 18:55, 27 January 2018 (CET)

Libregamewiki:Community portal

2018-01-27T17:55:43Z

Eagle: /* How to add games to genre listings? */ new section

Here is a place to discuss ideas and coordinate improvments to the LibreGameWiki itself.

Please use a number of :-characters at the beginning of your paragraph to indent it. You can sign your edits by using the second but last button in the toolbar.

Feel free to [https://libregamewiki.org/index.php?title=Libregamewiki:Community_portal&action=edit&section=new ask] questions on this page. By the way, do you know the [[Libregamewiki:The classroom|FAQ]] and [[Libregamewiki:Article policy‎|Article policy‎]]?

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== How do we make it easier for potential contributors to help? ==

How can we make it easier for potential contributors to help? Since the beginning of October account creation works without red tape again. This is a great step forward. Is there anything we can do to further improve the articles explaining how to contribute?
:Well, for once, we might want to fix the following explanation, which I see whenever I try to create a new page, hours after creating my account: "If you just created a new account, please wait a couple of minutes". :)
:[Edit: now I can create the page fine. Thank you.]

== Main Page ==
I think it may be a good idea to have a little paragraph at the top of the main page which explains what LibreGameWiki is.
:The front page links to [[Libregamewiki]] which is currently outdated, the main page could have a summary with more detail on that page. [[User:Kymara|Kymara]] ([[User talk:Kymara|talk]]) 12:31, 6 October 2012 (CEST)
Shall we have a small "How to contribute?" or "Help wanted" section on the main page which links to the relevant articles? What would it look like?
:Yes. It should link to an updated [[Libregamewiki:Article_policy]] and [[List of games]] [[User:Kymara|Kymara]] ([[User talk:Kymara|talk]]) 12:31, 6 October 2012 (CEST)
: There could also be a portal for this in the side bar. [[User:Kymara|Kymara]] ([[User talk:Kymara|talk]]) 12:47, 6 October 2012 (CEST)

== Which article should be featured next? ==

There is quite a number of very good articles. I think we should change the featured article on the main page more frequently to draw attention to them.

:Yes, I already asked a recent productive user, [[User:GNUbie|GNUbie]] for his thoughts for the next one. Generally, we should ask the wider community to help choose somehow. [[User:Kymara|Kymara]] ([[User talk:Kymara|talk]]) 12:32, 6 October 2012 (CEST)

== Engines for non-free games with no free games using them ==

Hi. Should free remakes of engines for non-free games be accepted as free engines, if they have never been (and not necessarily intended to be) used for a playable free game yet? Examples: [[OpenMW]], [http://www.etlegacy.com/ Enemy Territory: Legacy]. --[[User:AVRS|AVRS]] ([[User talk:AVRS|talk]]) 12:35, 28 November 2012 (CET)
:My two pence: I'd class those as free engines. Their use case is irrelevant, and it could be considered as a matter of timing, for example: a free engine which was created and then later used for a non-free game doesn't make the engine non-free.[[User:Kymara|Kymara]] ([[User talk:Kymara|talk]]) 12:46, 28 November 2012 (CET)

== Game articles redirecting to genre list ==

I'm seeing odd behavior. If I try to go to the following articles:

* https://libregamewiki.org/Freedroid_RPG
* https://libregamewiki.org/PARPG

I get redirected to the RPG genre page:

https://libregamewiki.org/Role-playing_games

If I use non-rewrite links, however, they seem to work.

* https://libregamewiki.org/index.php?title=Freedroid_RPG
* https://libregamewiki.org/index.php?title=PARPG

Could there perhaps be an error in the URL rewriting rules?

--[[User:Cov|Cov]] ([[User talk:Cov|talk]]) 22:33, 31 August 2013 (CEST)

: Thank you for the report. I fixed it. --[[User:Hendrik Brummermann|Hendrik Brummermann]] ([[User talk:Hendrik Brummermann|talk]]) 17:04, 8 September 2013 (CEST)

==License Choice==

The CC-BY is a non-copyleft license, and unless I'm mistaken, the GFDL is a copyleft license, which is why CC-BY-SA was chosen for Wikipedia when it dual-licensed to make it compatible with other CC sites. If I'm correct, this wiki is currently under two licenses which contradict each other on the question of copyleft, which is confusing. Why wasn't the CC-BY-SA license chosen for LGW? This would allow relevant to content to be imported from and exported to Wikipedia and other CC-BY-SA sites (with appropriate attribution of course). --[[User:Strypey|Strypey]] ([[User talk:Strypey|talk]]) 08:04, 11 January 2014 (CET)

: The CC-BY was chosen to make it easy for third parties to use content from LibreGameWiki. The GFDL was considered non-free by Debian and Debian is quite an authority as the Open Source Definition is based on Debian guidelines. It was kept as alternative to make it easy to copy content from LibreGameWiki to Wikipedia. Wikipedia and the FSF later pulled a stunt of releasing a new version of the GFDL with the Lex Wikipedia clause, allowing Wikipedia to move to a completely different license. LGW content, however, was licensed as GFDL 1.2 without the backdoor "or later". And personally, after this stunt, I don't think "or later" is a good idea at all. --[[User:Gamfan|Gamfan]] ([[User talk:Gamfan|talk]]) 08:16, 11 January 2014 (CET)

:: For the record, the change to the GFDL was made to allow Wikipedia (and other multi-collaborator works) to dual-license with CC-BY-SA, which is identical to the GFDL where it counts (eg attribution, copyleft), although it happens to lacks the "invariant sections" and "transparency" terms that made Debian declare the GFDL non-free. Both CC-BY and CC-BY-SA are free culture licenses: http://creativecommons.org/freeworks Practically speaking, the purpose of having a wiki under a license is to inform the user about what they can and can't do with its contents. The GFDL tells the user they must put derivative works under the same license (copyleft), while the CC-BY says they don't. This is confusing. Can I use sections of LGW within an ARR (All-Rights-Reserved) work or not? Is this wiki copyleft, or it isn't? If it is copyleft, shouldn't the CC-BY-SA needs to be used to let the user know that? If it isn't copyleft, shouldn't the GFDL be dropped to make this clear? --[[User:Strypey|Strypey]] ([[User talk:Strypey|talk]]) 05:49, 12 January 2014 (CET)

::: It is very simple: If you you contribute to LibreGameWiki, you must license your work as CC-BY und GFDL. If you want to use content from LGW, you can pick the license you want to comply with. Please keep in mind that copyleft is only one of the difference between the licenses (please read the full text of both licenses to learn about other demands required by each of the licenses). --[[User:Gamfan|Gamfan]] ([[User talk:Gamfan|talk]]) 13:21, 12 January 2014 (CET)

:::: I intended to answer, but I got an edit conflict earlier. Anyway, some points:
::::* Being CC-BY licensed, this wiki's text can be contributed to Wikipedia if properly attributed: see [http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Frequently_Asked_Questions#Can_I_include_a_work_licensed_with_CC_BY_in_a_Wikipedia_article_even_though_they_use_a_CC_BY-SA_license.3F CC FAQ] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Compatible_license#Can_I_add_something_to_Wikipedia_that_I_got_from_somewhere_else.3F Wikipedia copyright FAQ].
::::*Wikipedia is not entirely dual-licensed: all of it is available under CC-BY-SA (except the ''fairly used'' stuff). On the other hand, the GFDL does not necessarily apply to text added after the project voted to use the CC license - you have to check this yourself if you'd like to use a Wikipedia article under the GFDL.

:::::: I'm pretty sure this is incorrect. When I edit Wikipedia it says "By clicking the "Save page" button, you agree to the Terms of Use and you irrevocably agree to release your contribution under the CC BY-SA 3.0 License *and* the GFDL..." (emphasis mine) --[[User:Strypey|Strypey]] ([[User talk:Strypey|talk]]) 10:50, 6 November 2015 (CET)

::::*As I recall, Debian only considers the GFDL non-free if there are invariant sections involved, see [http://www.debian.org/vote/2006/vote_001 this vote]. What is the problematic "transparency" term?
::::*The lack of a "or later" clause precludes our stuff from being used in the [http://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Main_Page Free Software Directory]. This may be a pity, because their goal is rather similar to ours. -- [[User:StevenDH|StevenDH]] ([[User talk:StevenDH|talk]]) 19:40, 12 January 2014 (CET)

:::::: Is the copyright in LGW content owned by the original author(s) or the project? If there was a consensus among all LGW copyright holders, the content could be relicensed under any license they choose. This would not revoke previous licenses on the same content, but would apply to all existing content, and only the new license would apply to new content. As I said initially, I can't see the benefit of using CC-BY for a collaborative reference wiki, and I think CC-BY-SA would be a better choice, as it means any improvements made in derivative works are available to be backported into LGW. --[[User:Strypey|Strypey]] ([[User talk:Strypey|talk]]) 10:50, 6 November 2015 (CET)

== Libregamewiki uses an invalid security certificate ==

Hi, I do not know if the Community portal is the right place to report this type of problem. But I have not been able to find any better place.

When connecting to libregamewiki, some web-browsers (Mozilla based: firefox, iceweasel, icecat, seamonkey etc.) displays a warning page stating "This Connection is Untrusted". I have tested this on several computers with several browsers with both GNU/Linux and Windows OS, so it seems to be a problem that applies to everyone that uses these browsers.

The following details are given:

-libregamewiki.org uses an invalid security certificate.

-The certificate is not trusted because no issuer chain was provided.

-(Error code: sec_error_unknown_issuer)

--[[User:LibreGamer|Hurdman]] ([[User talk:LibreGamer|talk]]) 15:34, 8 February 2015 (CET)

: As of March 21, 2015 this problem no longer occurs. I am guessing that the security certificate has been updated. --[[User:LibreGamer|Hurdman]] ([[User talk:LibreGamer|talk]]) 14:06, 21 March 2015 (CET)

== A few things: Thanks for fighting spam ==
Hopefully the Argentinian/Brazilian wiki spammers have no places left...

I am inquiring about the Public Domain version of Rogue,
and the BSD version of Rogue.

I posess a copy of the Public Domain version of Rogue,
and have screen shots of the screens, which wikisneeripedia
seems not able to read 'Public Domain."

If need be, I can contact either Michael Toy or Glenn Wichman ( who published the sources to the PC Version/Commercial version) about
verifying the public domain version is indeed the public domain version.

== Article looks like ... data corruption?! ==

The article [[SDL_games]] is messed up. Even the old version that was ok some months ago is ... corrupted? --[[User:Gegxt|Gegxt]] ([[User talk:Gegxt|talk]]) 16:52, 27 July 2015 (CEST)

: Could you specify what looks corrupted? To me the article looks fine. [[User:LibreGamer|LibreGamer]] ([[User talk:LibreGamer|talk]]) 17:46, 31 July 2015 (CEST)

::Now I see it. It was only visible if one views the article after logging in. When not logged in the article looks fine. [[User:LibreGamer|LibreGamer]] ([[User talk:LibreGamer|talk]]) 17:46, 31 July 2015 (CEST)

:: I fixed the template, thanks for the hint. --[[User:Hendrik Brummermann|Hendrik Brummermann]] ([[User talk:Hendrik Brummermann|talk]]) 19:18, 31 July 2015 (CEST)

::: I can confirm the fix. Thanks for fixing. (section can be deleted / archived) --[[User:Gegxt|Gegxt]] ([[User talk:Gegxt|talk]]) 14:38, 8 August 2015 (CEST)

== Copying from Wikipedia ==

I note the warning at the bottom of edit pages not to copy from Wikipedia. I'm assuming this is out of date, as Wikipedia is now dual-licensed under CC-BY-SA 3.0? If so, it would be good to remove that warning, as there is a lot of useful material about libre games that could be imported to this wiki.

This is particularly important in view of the massive pruning of Wikipedia that appears to be going on, with many articles being deleted on the basis that their subject is not "notable" enough to have a page in an Encyclopedia. This problem has disturbed Wikipedians enough that one (or a group?) has set up the [http://speedydeletion.wikia.com/wiki/Speedy_deletion_Wiki SpeedyDeletion] wiki to rescue pages before they are removed, in case their contents are still of interest to other wikis like this one.
--[[User:Strypey|Strypey]] ([[User talk:Strypey|talk]]) 06:17, 6 October 2015 (CEST)

:Hi there. I'm afraid the warning has to remain as this wiki is cc-by or gfdl and wikipedia is cc-by-sa. (If you combine those cc license, the end result is the stricter of those, i.e. the one used by wikipedia) [[User:GNUbie|GNUbie]] ([[User talk:GNUbie|talk]]) 13:59, 12 October 2015 (CEST)

::Oops! I didn't notice the lack of the "SA" part of the LGW license when I made this post, and I totally forgot I already started a discussion about license choice further up. As I said there, all Wikipedia content is licensed under both CC-BY-SA *and* GPFDL. If content was imported from Wikipedia, it would have to be marked as such, to indicate that it can't not be used under CC-BY. --[[User:Strypey|Strypey]] ([[User talk:Strypey|talk]]) 10:40, 6 November 2015 (CET)

== Posting images ==

Hi!
I try to help someone to edit his game's page. Yesterday, his IP was block cause abuse (probably tried to much html lines to make edit as he wanted). I looked all around your site to understand how to post an image through your site, and choose categories for his game, but found nothing about it. Is there somewhere an option to make it directly?
-How upload an image on your site (I think it will be ok to post it on the edit of the game's page, but would be appreciated to have the exact html line to be sure)
-How to add categories for a game.

P.S.: maybe there is an error on the chat... you let us know that we can connect as guest, but all times I tried, this don't work, cause I don't have a nickname.

Thanks a lot in advance for your help!

Answers could be send to tricotvanille2003@hotmail.com, or directly to the member Electro l.i.b

== Spam & blocking users/IP ==

On the "Recent changes" page, I see there's a lot of spam-fighting going on. It's good that LGW is being valiantly defended against the incessant spam bots, but I think the Abuse filter is sometimes a little quick to block well meaning users. The anonymous user recently working on the Liberated Pixel Cup page, and two weeks ago even the registered user Lanadapter got on the block list, presumably because they made a series of small edits in a short time. Would it be possible to differentiate a bit better between real editors and spammer, so that we don't turn down actual contributors (while keeping the spam out, of course)? -- [[User:StevenDH|StevenDH]] ([[User talk:StevenDH|talk]]) 15:24, 14 February 2017 (CET)

== Lists and categories ==

Wouldn't be better to direct the reader to categories of games, instead of lists of games by genre, like [[Roguelike games]]? The list can get easily outdated.

== Board games page broken ==

When I'm logged in, I can see an up-to-date version of [[Board games]], but when I'm not logged in, I can only see a very old version from 2013. Could the reason be that this page was protected in 2012? If yes, could you remove the protection or ensure otherwise that the autogeneration by the bot works again and the generated page is visible to all users? Thanks --[[User:Blokusguy|Blokusguy]] ([[User talk:Blokusguy|talk]]) 07:42, 29 July 2017 (CEST)

== How to add a game? ==

At the moment new users don't get a confirmation mail and cannot create new pages. If you want to create a new article write a message to the user jens with the name of the game and the article will be created by him. Editing articles is possible without getting a confirmation mail.

# Please [[Special:CreateAccount|create an account]] with mail adress and confirm that you own the mail adress. The create account link is also available in the upper right corner. There may be traps against spammer. Read the pages after sending a request for login creation or changing a page!
# Read the [[Libregamewiki:Article_policy|Article policy]] and other articles from [[Libregamewiki:Get_involved|Get involved]]
# Make sure you are logged in
# Enter the title of the new page in the search box in the upper right corner and search for it. Before the search results, if there are some, there is a bold line with "Create the page "Example game name" on this wiki!" (I searched for "Example game name"). The "Example game name" is a link for creating a new page. If this line doesn't appear, make sure you clicked the confirmation link in the confirmation mail.
# When creating a new page, there are links to templates for games, humans and redirects above the big text box. Click on a template before entering text.
# If the link to the game home page isn't shown in the text add a == External Links == section with the URL

== Unable to auto confirm account ==

I can't create pages add I'm a member of group Users but not Auto confirmed Users. I didn't receive a confirmation message. I tried changing my email address but still no. Can you resend a confirmation message or confirm my account? Thanks! Eagle

== How to add games to genre listings? ==

How to add a game ([[LifeFLOW3D]]) to the genre listings page, [[Educational games]] and [[GPL games]]? Thank you! :) --[[User:Eagle|Eagle]] ([[User talk:Eagle|talk]]) 18:55, 27 January 2018 (CET)

User:Eagle

2018-01-27T17:50:16Z

Eagle: Start page! :)

Game developer:

[http://eaglegamma.com/ eaglegamma.com]: My website

[http://life.worldsowisdom.com/flow3d LifeFLOW3D]: Official site for [[LifeFLOW3D]]

Talk:Educational games

2018-01-27T17:49:00Z

Eagle: Ask how to add to this page

How to add a game ([[LifeFLOW3D]]) here? --[[User:Eagle|Eagle]] ([[User talk:Eagle|talk]]) 18:48, 27 January 2018 (CET)

LifeFLOW3D

2018-01-27T17:36:40Z

Eagle: Fix image! :)

'''''[http://life.worldsowisdom.com/flow3d/ LifeFLOW3D Digitarium]''''' lets you play with moving software creatures, as they explore their lush environments.

{{Gameinfo
|title = LifeFLOW3D
|image = File:LifeFLOW3D Digitarium - Level- Arcoiris I.png
|caption = LifeFLOW3D lets you play with moving software creatures, as they explore their lush environments.
|genre = [[:Category:Educational games|Educational]]
|developer = [http://worldsowisdom.com/ Worlds O Wisdom]
|code license = [[GPL]] 3.0
|media license = [[GPL]] 3.0
|engine = Blender Game Engine
|latest release = 1.0
|release date = January 25, 2018
|release date iso =
|release announcement = https://life.worldsowisdom.com/?q=node/180
|language = Python
|library =
|platform = Windows 64-bit available, cross-platform builds possible
|link homepage = http://life.worldsowisdom.com/flow3d
|link blog = http://life.worldsowisdom.com
|link chatweb =
|chat =
|link feed = https://life.worldsowisdom.com/?q=rss.xml
|link forum = https://worldsowisdom.com/?q=forum
|link pad =
|link project = https://gamejolt.com/games/lifeflow3d/314074
|link tracker =
|link scmweb = https://github.com/worldsowisdom/LifeFLOW3D
|scm = GitHub
}}

In LifeFLOW3D, you interact with various geometric systems that respond to your avatar. Kids learn about space and time, and get a feeling for exciting ways to play with colors and shapes.<ref>[http://life.worldsowisdom.com/flow3d Official website for LifeFLOW3D]</ref> It is released under the [[GNU General Public License|GPL 3.0]] license.

==References==
{{reflist}}

[[Category:Educational games]]
[[Category:GPL games]]
[[Category:Child-oriented games]]

File:LifeFLOW3D Digitarium - Level- Arcoiris I.png

2018-01-27T17:33:22Z

Eagle: A screenshot of the level "Arcoiris I" from the game [http://life.worldsowisdom.com/flow3d LifeFLOW3D]. Category:GPL Images

A screenshot of the level "Arcoiris I" from the game [http://life.worldsowisdom.com/flow3d LifeFLOW3D].

[[Category:GPL Images]]

LifeFLOW3D

2018-01-27T16:46:45Z

Eagle: fix link

'''''[http://life.worldsowisdom.com/flow3d/ LifeFLOW3D Digitarium]''''' lets you play with moving software creatures, as they explore their lush environments.

{{Gameinfo
|title = LifeFLOW3D
|image = https://i.gjcdn.net/data/games/5/74/314074/media/game-description/2018-01-19_18-06-29-unpmc9hb.png
|caption = LifeFLOW3D lets you play with moving software creatures, as they explore their lush environments.
|genre = [[:Category:Educational games|Educational]]
|developer = [http://worldsowisdom.com/ Worlds O Wisdom]
|code license = [[GPL]] 3.0
|media license = [[GPL]] 3.0
|engine = Blender Game Engine
|latest release = 1.0
|release date = January 25, 2018
|release date iso =
|release announcement = https://life.worldsowisdom.com/?q=node/180
|language = Python
|library =
|platform = Windows 64-bit available, cross-platform builds possible
|link homepage = http://life.worldsowisdom.com/flow3d
|link blog = http://life.worldsowisdom.com
|link chatweb =
|chat =
|link feed = https://life.worldsowisdom.com/?q=rss.xml
|link forum = https://worldsowisdom.com/?q=forum
|link pad =
|link project = https://gamejolt.com/games/lifeflow3d/314074
|link tracker =
|link scmweb = https://github.com/worldsowisdom/LifeFLOW3D
|scm = GitHub
}}

In LifeFLOW3D, you interact with various geometric systems that respond to your avatar. Kids learn about space and time, and get a feeling for exciting ways to play with colors and shapes.<ref>[http://life.worldsowisdom.com/flow3d Official website for LifeFLOW3D]</ref> It is released under the [[GNU General Public License|GPL 3.0]] license.

==References==
{{reflist}}

[[Category:Educational games]]
[[Category:GPL games]]
[[Category:Child-oriented games]]

LifeFLOW3D

2018-01-27T16:45:54Z

Eagle: add more info! :)

'''''[http://life.worldsowisdom.com/flow3d/ LifeFLOW3D Digitarium]''''' lets you play with moving software creatures, as they explore their lush environments.

{{Gameinfo
|title = LifeFLOW3D
|image = https://i.gjcdn.net/data/games/5/74/314074/media/game-description/2018-01-19_18-06-29-unpmc9hb.png
|caption = LifeFLOW3D lets you play with moving software creatures, as they explore their lush environments.
|genre = [[:Category:Educational games|Educational]]
|developer = [http://worldsowisdom.com/ Worlds O Wisdom]
|code license = [[GPL]] 3.0
|media license = [[GPL]] 3.0
|engine = Blender Game Engine
|latest release = 1.0
|release date = January 25, 2018
|release date iso =
|release announcement = https://life.worldsowisdom.com/?q=node/180
|language = Python
|library =
|platform = Windows 64-bit available, cross-platform builds possible
|link homepage = http://life.worldsowisdom.com/flow3d
|link blog = http://life.worldsowisdom.com
|link chatweb =
|chat =
|link feed = https://life.worldsowisdom.com/?q=rss.xml
|link forum = https://worldsowisdom.com/?q=forum
|link pad =
|link project = https://gamejolt.com/games/lifeflow3d/314074
|link tracker =
|link scmweb = https://github.com/worldsowisdom/LifeFLOW3D
|scm = GitHub
}}

In LifeFLOW3D, you interact with various geometric systems that respond to your avatar. Kids learn about space and time, and get a feeling for exciting ways to play with colors and shapes.<ref>[http://life.worldsowisdom.com/flow3d] Official website for LifeFLOW3D</ref> It is released under the [[GNU General Public License|GPL 3.0]] license.

==References==
{{reflist}}

[[Category:Educational games]]
[[Category:GPL games]]
[[Category:Child-oriented games]]

LifeFLOW3D

2018-01-27T16:29:26Z

Eagle: add info! :)

[http://life.worldsowisdom.com/flow3d/ LifeFLOW3D Digitarium] lets you play with moving software creatures, as they explore their lush environments.

{{Gameinfo
|title = LifeFLOW3D
|image = https://i.gjcdn.net/data/games/5/74/314074/media/game-description/2018-01-19_18-06-29-unpmc9hb.png
|caption = LifeFLOW3D lets you play with moving software creatures, as they explore their lush environments.
|genre = Education
|developer = [http://worldsowisdom.com/ Worlds O Wisdom]
|code license = GPL
|media license = GPL
|engine = Blender Game Engine
|latest release = 1.0
|release date = January 25, 2018
|release date iso =
|release announcement = https://life.worldsowisdom.com/?q=node/180
|language = Python
|library =
|platform = Windows 64-bit available, cross-platform builds possible
|link homepage = http://life.worldsowisdom.com/flow3d
|link blog = http://life.worldsowisdom.com
|link chatweb =
|chat =
|link feed = https://life.worldsowisdom.com/?q=rss.xml
|link forum = https://worldsowisdom.com/?q=forum
|link pad =
|link project = https://gamejolt.com/games/lifeflow3d/314074
|link tracker =
|link scmweb = https://github.com/worldsowisdom/LifeFLOW3D
|scm = GitHub
}}

In LifeFLOW3D, you interact with various geometric systems that respond to your avatar. Kids learn about space and time, and get a feeling for exciting ways to play with colors and shapes.

==References==
{{reflist}}

[[Category:Educational games]]

Libregamewiki:Community portal

2018-01-27T13:17:00Z

Eagle: /* Unable to auto confirm account */ new section

Here is a place to discuss ideas and coordinate improvments to the LibreGameWiki itself.

Please use a number of :-characters at the beginning of your paragraph to indent it. You can sign your edits by using the second but last button in the toolbar.

Feel free to [https://libregamewiki.org/index.php?title=Libregamewiki:Community_portal&action=edit&section=new ask] questions on this page. By the way, do you know the [[Libregamewiki:The classroom|FAQ]] and [[Libregamewiki:Article policy‎|Article policy‎]]?

__NEWSECTIONLINK__

== How do we make it easier for potential contributors to help? ==

How can we make it easier for potential contributors to help? Since the beginning of October account creation works without red tape again. This is a great step forward. Is there anything we can do to further improve the articles explaining how to contribute?
:Well, for once, we might want to fix the following explanation, which I see whenever I try to create a new page, hours after creating my account: "If you just created a new account, please wait a couple of minutes". :)
:[Edit: now I can create the page fine. Thank you.]

== Main Page ==
I think it may be a good idea to have a little paragraph at the top of the main page which explains what LibreGameWiki is.
:The front page links to [[Libregamewiki]] which is currently outdated, the main page could have a summary with more detail on that page. [[User:Kymara|Kymara]] ([[User talk:Kymara|talk]]) 12:31, 6 October 2012 (CEST)
Shall we have a small "How to contribute?" or "Help wanted" section on the main page which links to the relevant articles? What would it look like?
:Yes. It should link to an updated [[Libregamewiki:Article_policy]] and [[List of games]] [[User:Kymara|Kymara]] ([[User talk:Kymara|talk]]) 12:31, 6 October 2012 (CEST)
: There could also be a portal for this in the side bar. [[User:Kymara|Kymara]] ([[User talk:Kymara|talk]]) 12:47, 6 October 2012 (CEST)

== Which article should be featured next? ==

There is quite a number of very good articles. I think we should change the featured article on the main page more frequently to draw attention to them.

:Yes, I already asked a recent productive user, [[User:GNUbie|GNUbie]] for his thoughts for the next one. Generally, we should ask the wider community to help choose somehow. [[User:Kymara|Kymara]] ([[User talk:Kymara|talk]]) 12:32, 6 October 2012 (CEST)

== Engines for non-free games with no free games using them ==

Hi. Should free remakes of engines for non-free games be accepted as free engines, if they have never been (and not necessarily intended to be) used for a playable free game yet? Examples: [[OpenMW]], [http://www.etlegacy.com/ Enemy Territory: Legacy]. --[[User:AVRS|AVRS]] ([[User talk:AVRS|talk]]) 12:35, 28 November 2012 (CET)
:My two pence: I'd class those as free engines. Their use case is irrelevant, and it could be considered as a matter of timing, for example: a free engine which was created and then later used for a non-free game doesn't make the engine non-free.[[User:Kymara|Kymara]] ([[User talk:Kymara|talk]]) 12:46, 28 November 2012 (CET)

== Game articles redirecting to genre list ==

I'm seeing odd behavior. If I try to go to the following articles:

* https://libregamewiki.org/Freedroid_RPG
* https://libregamewiki.org/PARPG

I get redirected to the RPG genre page:

https://libregamewiki.org/Role-playing_games

If I use non-rewrite links, however, they seem to work.

* https://libregamewiki.org/index.php?title=Freedroid_RPG
* https://libregamewiki.org/index.php?title=PARPG

Could there perhaps be an error in the URL rewriting rules?

--[[User:Cov|Cov]] ([[User talk:Cov|talk]]) 22:33, 31 August 2013 (CEST)

: Thank you for the report. I fixed it. --[[User:Hendrik Brummermann|Hendrik Brummermann]] ([[User talk:Hendrik Brummermann|talk]]) 17:04, 8 September 2013 (CEST)

==License Choice==

The CC-BY is a non-copyleft license, and unless I'm mistaken, the GFDL is a copyleft license, which is why CC-BY-SA was chosen for Wikipedia when it dual-licensed to make it compatible with other CC sites. If I'm correct, this wiki is currently under two licenses which contradict each other on the question of copyleft, which is confusing. Why wasn't the CC-BY-SA license chosen for LGW? This would allow relevant to content to be imported from and exported to Wikipedia and other CC-BY-SA sites (with appropriate attribution of course). --[[User:Strypey|Strypey]] ([[User talk:Strypey|talk]]) 08:04, 11 January 2014 (CET)

: The CC-BY was chosen to make it easy for third parties to use content from LibreGameWiki. The GFDL was considered non-free by Debian and Debian is quite an authority as the Open Source Definition is based on Debian guidelines. It was kept as alternative to make it easy to copy content from LibreGameWiki to Wikipedia. Wikipedia and the FSF later pulled a stunt of releasing a new version of the GFDL with the Lex Wikipedia clause, allowing Wikipedia to move to a completely different license. LGW content, however, was licensed as GFDL 1.2 without the backdoor "or later". And personally, after this stunt, I don't think "or later" is a good idea at all. --[[User:Gamfan|Gamfan]] ([[User talk:Gamfan|talk]]) 08:16, 11 January 2014 (CET)

:: For the record, the change to the GFDL was made to allow Wikipedia (and other multi-collaborator works) to dual-license with CC-BY-SA, which is identical to the GFDL where it counts (eg attribution, copyleft), although it happens to lacks the "invariant sections" and "transparency" terms that made Debian declare the GFDL non-free. Both CC-BY and CC-BY-SA are free culture licenses: http://creativecommons.org/freeworks Practically speaking, the purpose of having a wiki under a license is to inform the user about what they can and can't do with its contents. The GFDL tells the user they must put derivative works under the same license (copyleft), while the CC-BY says they don't. This is confusing. Can I use sections of LGW within an ARR (All-Rights-Reserved) work or not? Is this wiki copyleft, or it isn't? If it is copyleft, shouldn't the CC-BY-SA needs to be used to let the user know that? If it isn't copyleft, shouldn't the GFDL be dropped to make this clear? --[[User:Strypey|Strypey]] ([[User talk:Strypey|talk]]) 05:49, 12 January 2014 (CET)

::: It is very simple: If you you contribute to LibreGameWiki, you must license your work as CC-BY und GFDL. If you want to use content from LGW, you can pick the license you want to comply with. Please keep in mind that copyleft is only one of the difference between the licenses (please read the full text of both licenses to learn about other demands required by each of the licenses). --[[User:Gamfan|Gamfan]] ([[User talk:Gamfan|talk]]) 13:21, 12 January 2014 (CET)

:::: I intended to answer, but I got an edit conflict earlier. Anyway, some points:
::::* Being CC-BY licensed, this wiki's text can be contributed to Wikipedia if properly attributed: see [http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Frequently_Asked_Questions#Can_I_include_a_work_licensed_with_CC_BY_in_a_Wikipedia_article_even_though_they_use_a_CC_BY-SA_license.3F CC FAQ] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Compatible_license#Can_I_add_something_to_Wikipedia_that_I_got_from_somewhere_else.3F Wikipedia copyright FAQ].
::::*Wikipedia is not entirely dual-licensed: all of it is available under CC-BY-SA (except the ''fairly used'' stuff). On the other hand, the GFDL does not necessarily apply to text added after the project voted to use the CC license - you have to check this yourself if you'd like to use a Wikipedia article under the GFDL.

:::::: I'm pretty sure this is incorrect. When I edit Wikipedia it says "By clicking the "Save page" button, you agree to the Terms of Use and you irrevocably agree to release your contribution under the CC BY-SA 3.0 License *and* the GFDL..." (emphasis mine) --[[User:Strypey|Strypey]] ([[User talk:Strypey|talk]]) 10:50, 6 November 2015 (CET)

::::*As I recall, Debian only considers the GFDL non-free if there are invariant sections involved, see [http://www.debian.org/vote/2006/vote_001 this vote]. What is the problematic "transparency" term?
::::*The lack of a "or later" clause precludes our stuff from being used in the [http://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Main_Page Free Software Directory]. This may be a pity, because their goal is rather similar to ours. -- [[User:StevenDH|StevenDH]] ([[User talk:StevenDH|talk]]) 19:40, 12 January 2014 (CET)

:::::: Is the copyright in LGW content owned by the original author(s) or the project? If there was a consensus among all LGW copyright holders, the content could be relicensed under any license they choose. This would not revoke previous licenses on the same content, but would apply to all existing content, and only the new license would apply to new content. As I said initially, I can't see the benefit of using CC-BY for a collaborative reference wiki, and I think CC-BY-SA would be a better choice, as it means any improvements made in derivative works are available to be backported into LGW. --[[User:Strypey|Strypey]] ([[User talk:Strypey|talk]]) 10:50, 6 November 2015 (CET)

== Libregamewiki uses an invalid security certificate ==

Hi, I do not know if the Community portal is the right place to report this type of problem. But I have not been able to find any better place.

When connecting to libregamewiki, some web-browsers (Mozilla based: firefox, iceweasel, icecat, seamonkey etc.) displays a warning page stating "This Connection is Untrusted". I have tested this on several computers with several browsers with both GNU/Linux and Windows OS, so it seems to be a problem that applies to everyone that uses these browsers.

The following details are given:

-libregamewiki.org uses an invalid security certificate.

-The certificate is not trusted because no issuer chain was provided.

-(Error code: sec_error_unknown_issuer)

--[[User:LibreGamer|Hurdman]] ([[User talk:LibreGamer|talk]]) 15:34, 8 February 2015 (CET)

: As of March 21, 2015 this problem no longer occurs. I am guessing that the security certificate has been updated. --[[User:LibreGamer|Hurdman]] ([[User talk:LibreGamer|talk]]) 14:06, 21 March 2015 (CET)

== A few things: Thanks for fighting spam ==
Hopefully the Argentinian/Brazilian wiki spammers have no places left...

I am inquiring about the Public Domain version of Rogue,
and the BSD version of Rogue.

I posess a copy of the Public Domain version of Rogue,
and have screen shots of the screens, which wikisneeripedia
seems not able to read 'Public Domain."

If need be, I can contact either Michael Toy or Glenn Wichman ( who published the sources to the PC Version/Commercial version) about
verifying the public domain version is indeed the public domain version.

== Article looks like ... data corruption?! ==

The article [[SDL_games]] is messed up. Even the old version that was ok some months ago is ... corrupted? --[[User:Gegxt|Gegxt]] ([[User talk:Gegxt|talk]]) 16:52, 27 July 2015 (CEST)

: Could you specify what looks corrupted? To me the article looks fine. [[User:LibreGamer|LibreGamer]] ([[User talk:LibreGamer|talk]]) 17:46, 31 July 2015 (CEST)

::Now I see it. It was only visible if one views the article after logging in. When not logged in the article looks fine. [[User:LibreGamer|LibreGamer]] ([[User talk:LibreGamer|talk]]) 17:46, 31 July 2015 (CEST)

:: I fixed the template, thanks for the hint. --[[User:Hendrik Brummermann|Hendrik Brummermann]] ([[User talk:Hendrik Brummermann|talk]]) 19:18, 31 July 2015 (CEST)

::: I can confirm the fix. Thanks for fixing. (section can be deleted / archived) --[[User:Gegxt|Gegxt]] ([[User talk:Gegxt|talk]]) 14:38, 8 August 2015 (CEST)

== Copying from Wikipedia ==

I note the warning at the bottom of edit pages not to copy from Wikipedia. I'm assuming this is out of date, as Wikipedia is now dual-licensed under CC-BY-SA 3.0? If so, it would be good to remove that warning, as there is a lot of useful material about libre games that could be imported to this wiki.

This is particularly important in view of the massive pruning of Wikipedia that appears to be going on, with many articles being deleted on the basis that their subject is not "notable" enough to have a page in an Encyclopedia. This problem has disturbed Wikipedians enough that one (or a group?) has set up the [http://speedydeletion.wikia.com/wiki/Speedy_deletion_Wiki SpeedyDeletion] wiki to rescue pages before they are removed, in case their contents are still of interest to other wikis like this one.
--[[User:Strypey|Strypey]] ([[User talk:Strypey|talk]]) 06:17, 6 October 2015 (CEST)

:Hi there. I'm afraid the warning has to remain as this wiki is cc-by or gfdl and wikipedia is cc-by-sa. (If you combine those cc license, the end result is the stricter of those, i.e. the one used by wikipedia) [[User:GNUbie|GNUbie]] ([[User talk:GNUbie|talk]]) 13:59, 12 October 2015 (CEST)

::Oops! I didn't notice the lack of the "SA" part of the LGW license when I made this post, and I totally forgot I already started a discussion about license choice further up. As I said there, all Wikipedia content is licensed under both CC-BY-SA *and* GPFDL. If content was imported from Wikipedia, it would have to be marked as such, to indicate that it can't not be used under CC-BY. --[[User:Strypey|Strypey]] ([[User talk:Strypey|talk]]) 10:40, 6 November 2015 (CET)

== Posting images ==

Hi!
I try to help someone to edit his game's page. Yesterday, his IP was block cause abuse (probably tried to much html lines to make edit as he wanted). I looked all around your site to understand how to post an image through your site, and choose categories for his game, but found nothing about it. Is there somewhere an option to make it directly?
-How upload an image on your site (I think it will be ok to post it on the edit of the game's page, but would be appreciated to have the exact html line to be sure)
-How to add categories for a game.

P.S.: maybe there is an error on the chat... you let us know that we can connect as guest, but all times I tried, this don't work, cause I don't have a nickname.

Thanks a lot in advance for your help!

Answers could be send to tricotvanille2003@hotmail.com, or directly to the member Electro l.i.b

== Spam & blocking users/IP ==

On the "Recent changes" page, I see there's a lot of spam-fighting going on. It's good that LGW is being valiantly defended against the incessant spam bots, but I think the Abuse filter is sometimes a little quick to block well meaning users. The anonymous user recently working on the Liberated Pixel Cup page, and two weeks ago even the registered user Lanadapter got on the block list, presumably because they made a series of small edits in a short time. Would it be possible to differentiate a bit better between real editors and spammer, so that we don't turn down actual contributors (while keeping the spam out, of course)? -- [[User:StevenDH|StevenDH]] ([[User talk:StevenDH|talk]]) 15:24, 14 February 2017 (CET)

== Lists and categories ==

Wouldn't be better to direct the reader to categories of games, instead of lists of games by genre, like [[Roguelike games]]? The list can get easily outdated.

== Board games page broken ==

When I'm logged in, I can see an up-to-date version of [[Board games]], but when I'm not logged in, I can only see a very old version from 2013. Could the reason be that this page was protected in 2012? If yes, could you remove the protection or ensure otherwise that the autogeneration by the bot works again and the generated page is visible to all users? Thanks --[[User:Blokusguy|Blokusguy]] ([[User talk:Blokusguy|talk]]) 07:42, 29 July 2017 (CEST)

== How to add a game? ==

# Please [[Special:CreateAccount|create an account]] with mail adress and confirm that you own the mail adress. The create account link is also available in the upper right corner. There may be traps against spammer. Read the pages after sending a request for login creation or changing a page!
# Read the [[Libregamewiki:Article_policy|Article policy]] and other articles from [[Libregamewiki:Get_involved|Get involved]]
# Make sure you are logged in
# Enter the title of the new page in the search box in the upper right corner and search for it. Before the search results, if there are some, there is a bold line with "Create the page "Example game name" on this wiki!" (I searched for "Example game name"). The "Example game name" is a link for creating a new page. If this line doesn't appear, make sure you clicked the confirmation link in the confirmation mail.
# When creating a new page, there are links to templates for games, humans and redirects above the big text box. Click on a template before entering text.
# If the link to the game home page isn't shown in the text add a == External Links == section with the URL

== Unable to auto confirm account ==

I can't create pages add I'm a member of group Users but not Auto confirmed Users. I didn't receive a confirmation message. I tried changing my email address but still no. Can you resend a confirmation message or confirm my account? Thanks! Eagle

Libregamewiki:Community portal

2018-01-26T16:57:18Z

Eagle: /* How to add a game? */ new section

Here is a place to discuss ideas and coordinate improvments to the LibreGameWiki itself.

Please use a number of :-characters at the beginning of your paragraph to indent it. You can sign your edits by using the second but last button in the toolbar.

Feel free to [https://libregamewiki.org/index.php?title=Libregamewiki:Community_portal&action=edit&section=new ask] questions on this page. By the way, do you know the [[Libregamewiki:The classroom|FAQ]] and [[Libregamewiki:Article policy‎|Article policy‎]]?

__NEWSECTIONLINK__

== How do we make it easier for potential contributors to help? ==

How can we make it easier for potential contributors to help? Since the beginning of October account creation works without red tape again. This is a great step forward. Is there anything we can do to further improve the articles explaining how to contribute?
:Well, for once, we might want to fix the following explanation, which I see whenever I try to create a new page, hours after creating my account: "If you just created a new account, please wait a couple of minutes". :)
:[Edit: now I can create the page fine. Thank you.]

== Main Page ==
I think it may be a good idea to have a little paragraph at the top of the main page which explains what LibreGameWiki is.
:The front page links to [[Libregamewiki]] which is currently outdated, the main page could have a summary with more detail on that page. [[User:Kymara|Kymara]] ([[User talk:Kymara|talk]]) 12:31, 6 October 2012 (CEST)
Shall we have a small "How to contribute?" or "Help wanted" section on the main page which links to the relevant articles? What would it look like?
:Yes. It should link to an updated [[Libregamewiki:Article_policy]] and [[List of games]] [[User:Kymara|Kymara]] ([[User talk:Kymara|talk]]) 12:31, 6 October 2012 (CEST)
: There could also be a portal for this in the side bar. [[User:Kymara|Kymara]] ([[User talk:Kymara|talk]]) 12:47, 6 October 2012 (CEST)

== Which article should be featured next? ==

There is quite a number of very good articles. I think we should change the featured article on the main page more frequently to draw attention to them.

:Yes, I already asked a recent productive user, [[User:GNUbie|GNUbie]] for his thoughts for the next one. Generally, we should ask the wider community to help choose somehow. [[User:Kymara|Kymara]] ([[User talk:Kymara|talk]]) 12:32, 6 October 2012 (CEST)

== Engines for non-free games with no free games using them ==

Hi. Should free remakes of engines for non-free games be accepted as free engines, if they have never been (and not necessarily intended to be) used for a playable free game yet? Examples: [[OpenMW]], [http://www.etlegacy.com/ Enemy Territory: Legacy]. --[[User:AVRS|AVRS]] ([[User talk:AVRS|talk]]) 12:35, 28 November 2012 (CET)
:My two pence: I'd class those as free engines. Their use case is irrelevant, and it could be considered as a matter of timing, for example: a free engine which was created and then later used for a non-free game doesn't make the engine non-free.[[User:Kymara|Kymara]] ([[User talk:Kymara|talk]]) 12:46, 28 November 2012 (CET)

== Game articles redirecting to genre list ==

I'm seeing odd behavior. If I try to go to the following articles:

* https://libregamewiki.org/Freedroid_RPG
* https://libregamewiki.org/PARPG

I get redirected to the RPG genre page:

https://libregamewiki.org/Role-playing_games

If I use non-rewrite links, however, they seem to work.

* https://libregamewiki.org/index.php?title=Freedroid_RPG
* https://libregamewiki.org/index.php?title=PARPG

Could there perhaps be an error in the URL rewriting rules?

--[[User:Cov|Cov]] ([[User talk:Cov|talk]]) 22:33, 31 August 2013 (CEST)

: Thank you for the report. I fixed it. --[[User:Hendrik Brummermann|Hendrik Brummermann]] ([[User talk:Hendrik Brummermann|talk]]) 17:04, 8 September 2013 (CEST)

==License Choice==

The CC-BY is a non-copyleft license, and unless I'm mistaken, the GFDL is a copyleft license, which is why CC-BY-SA was chosen for Wikipedia when it dual-licensed to make it compatible with other CC sites. If I'm correct, this wiki is currently under two licenses which contradict each other on the question of copyleft, which is confusing. Why wasn't the CC-BY-SA license chosen for LGW? This would allow relevant to content to be imported from and exported to Wikipedia and other CC-BY-SA sites (with appropriate attribution of course). --[[User:Strypey|Strypey]] ([[User talk:Strypey|talk]]) 08:04, 11 January 2014 (CET)

: The CC-BY was chosen to make it easy for third parties to use content from LibreGameWiki. The GFDL was considered non-free by Debian and Debian is quite an authority as the Open Source Definition is based on Debian guidelines. It was kept as alternative to make it easy to copy content from LibreGameWiki to Wikipedia. Wikipedia and the FSF later pulled a stunt of releasing a new version of the GFDL with the Lex Wikipedia clause, allowing Wikipedia to move to a completely different license. LGW content, however, was licensed as GFDL 1.2 without the backdoor "or later". And personally, after this stunt, I don't think "or later" is a good idea at all. --[[User:Gamfan|Gamfan]] ([[User talk:Gamfan|talk]]) 08:16, 11 January 2014 (CET)

:: For the record, the change to the GFDL was made to allow Wikipedia (and other multi-collaborator works) to dual-license with CC-BY-SA, which is identical to the GFDL where it counts (eg attribution, copyleft), although it happens to lacks the "invariant sections" and "transparency" terms that made Debian declare the GFDL non-free. Both CC-BY and CC-BY-SA are free culture licenses: http://creativecommons.org/freeworks Practically speaking, the purpose of having a wiki under a license is to inform the user about what they can and can't do with its contents. The GFDL tells the user they must put derivative works under the same license (copyleft), while the CC-BY says they don't. This is confusing. Can I use sections of LGW within an ARR (All-Rights-Reserved) work or not? Is this wiki copyleft, or it isn't? If it is copyleft, shouldn't the CC-BY-SA needs to be used to let the user know that? If it isn't copyleft, shouldn't the GFDL be dropped to make this clear? --[[User:Strypey|Strypey]] ([[User talk:Strypey|talk]]) 05:49, 12 January 2014 (CET)

::: It is very simple: If you you contribute to LibreGameWiki, you must license your work as CC-BY und GFDL. If you want to use content from LGW, you can pick the license you want to comply with. Please keep in mind that copyleft is only one of the difference between the licenses (please read the full text of both licenses to learn about other demands required by each of the licenses). --[[User:Gamfan|Gamfan]] ([[User talk:Gamfan|talk]]) 13:21, 12 January 2014 (CET)

:::: I intended to answer, but I got an edit conflict earlier. Anyway, some points:
::::* Being CC-BY licensed, this wiki's text can be contributed to Wikipedia if properly attributed: see [http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Frequently_Asked_Questions#Can_I_include_a_work_licensed_with_CC_BY_in_a_Wikipedia_article_even_though_they_use_a_CC_BY-SA_license.3F CC FAQ] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Compatible_license#Can_I_add_something_to_Wikipedia_that_I_got_from_somewhere_else.3F Wikipedia copyright FAQ].
::::*Wikipedia is not entirely dual-licensed: all of it is available under CC-BY-SA (except the ''fairly used'' stuff). On the other hand, the GFDL does not necessarily apply to text added after the project voted to use the CC license - you have to check this yourself if you'd like to use a Wikipedia article under the GFDL.

:::::: I'm pretty sure this is incorrect. When I edit Wikipedia it says "By clicking the "Save page" button, you agree to the Terms of Use and you irrevocably agree to release your contribution under the CC BY-SA 3.0 License *and* the GFDL..." (emphasis mine) --[[User:Strypey|Strypey]] ([[User talk:Strypey|talk]]) 10:50, 6 November 2015 (CET)

::::*As I recall, Debian only considers the GFDL non-free if there are invariant sections involved, see [http://www.debian.org/vote/2006/vote_001 this vote]. What is the problematic "transparency" term?
::::*The lack of a "or later" clause precludes our stuff from being used in the [http://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Main_Page Free Software Directory]. This may be a pity, because their goal is rather similar to ours. -- [[User:StevenDH|StevenDH]] ([[User talk:StevenDH|talk]]) 19:40, 12 January 2014 (CET)

:::::: Is the copyright in LGW content owned by the original author(s) or the project? If there was a consensus among all LGW copyright holders, the content could be relicensed under any license they choose. This would not revoke previous licenses on the same content, but would apply to all existing content, and only the new license would apply to new content. As I said initially, I can't see the benefit of using CC-BY for a collaborative reference wiki, and I think CC-BY-SA would be a better choice, as it means any improvements made in derivative works are available to be backported into LGW. --[[User:Strypey|Strypey]] ([[User talk:Strypey|talk]]) 10:50, 6 November 2015 (CET)

== Libregamewiki uses an invalid security certificate ==

Hi, I do not know if the Community portal is the right place to report this type of problem. But I have not been able to find any better place.

When connecting to libregamewiki, some web-browsers (Mozilla based: firefox, iceweasel, icecat, seamonkey etc.) displays a warning page stating "This Connection is Untrusted". I have tested this on several computers with several browsers with both GNU/Linux and Windows OS, so it seems to be a problem that applies to everyone that uses these browsers.

The following details are given:

-libregamewiki.org uses an invalid security certificate.

-The certificate is not trusted because no issuer chain was provided.

-(Error code: sec_error_unknown_issuer)

--[[User:LibreGamer|Hurdman]] ([[User talk:LibreGamer|talk]]) 15:34, 8 February 2015 (CET)

: As of March 21, 2015 this problem no longer occurs. I am guessing that the security certificate has been updated. --[[User:LibreGamer|Hurdman]] ([[User talk:LibreGamer|talk]]) 14:06, 21 March 2015 (CET)

== A few things: Thanks for fighting spam ==
Hopefully the Argentinian/Brazilian wiki spammers have no places left...

I am inquiring about the Public Domain version of Rogue,
and the BSD version of Rogue.

I posess a copy of the Public Domain version of Rogue,
and have screen shots of the screens, which wikisneeripedia
seems not able to read 'Public Domain."

If need be, I can contact either Michael Toy or Glenn Wichman ( who published the sources to the PC Version/Commercial version) about
verifying the public domain version is indeed the public domain version.

== Article looks like ... data corruption?! ==

The article [[SDL_games]] is messed up. Even the old version that was ok some months ago is ... corrupted? --[[User:Gegxt|Gegxt]] ([[User talk:Gegxt|talk]]) 16:52, 27 July 2015 (CEST)

: Could you specify what looks corrupted? To me the article looks fine. [[User:LibreGamer|LibreGamer]] ([[User talk:LibreGamer|talk]]) 17:46, 31 July 2015 (CEST)

::Now I see it. It was only visible if one views the article after logging in. When not logged in the article looks fine. [[User:LibreGamer|LibreGamer]] ([[User talk:LibreGamer|talk]]) 17:46, 31 July 2015 (CEST)

:: I fixed the template, thanks for the hint. --[[User:Hendrik Brummermann|Hendrik Brummermann]] ([[User talk:Hendrik Brummermann|talk]]) 19:18, 31 July 2015 (CEST)

::: I can confirm the fix. Thanks for fixing. (section can be deleted / archived) --[[User:Gegxt|Gegxt]] ([[User talk:Gegxt|talk]]) 14:38, 8 August 2015 (CEST)

== Copying from Wikipedia ==

I note the warning at the bottom of edit pages not to copy from Wikipedia. I'm assuming this is out of date, as Wikipedia is now dual-licensed under CC-BY-SA 3.0? If so, it would be good to remove that warning, as there is a lot of useful material about libre games that could be imported to this wiki.

This is particularly important in view of the massive pruning of Wikipedia that appears to be going on, with many articles being deleted on the basis that their subject is not "notable" enough to have a page in an Encyclopedia. This problem has disturbed Wikipedians enough that one (or a group?) has set up the [http://speedydeletion.wikia.com/wiki/Speedy_deletion_Wiki SpeedyDeletion] wiki to rescue pages before they are removed, in case their contents are still of interest to other wikis like this one.
--[[User:Strypey|Strypey]] ([[User talk:Strypey|talk]]) 06:17, 6 October 2015 (CEST)

:Hi there. I'm afraid the warning has to remain as this wiki is cc-by or gfdl and wikipedia is cc-by-sa. (If you combine those cc license, the end result is the stricter of those, i.e. the one used by wikipedia) [[User:GNUbie|GNUbie]] ([[User talk:GNUbie|talk]]) 13:59, 12 October 2015 (CEST)

::Oops! I didn't notice the lack of the "SA" part of the LGW license when I made this post, and I totally forgot I already started a discussion about license choice further up. As I said there, all Wikipedia content is licensed under both CC-BY-SA *and* GPFDL. If content was imported from Wikipedia, it would have to be marked as such, to indicate that it can't not be used under CC-BY. --[[User:Strypey|Strypey]] ([[User talk:Strypey|talk]]) 10:40, 6 November 2015 (CET)

== Posting images ==

Hi!
I try to help someone to edit his game's page. Yesterday, his IP was block cause abuse (probably tried to much html lines to make edit as he wanted). I looked all around your site to understand how to post an image through your site, and choose categories for his game, but found nothing about it. Is there somewhere an option to make it directly?
-How upload an image on your site (I think it will be ok to post it on the edit of the game's page, but would be appreciated to have the exact html line to be sure)
-How to add categories for a game.

P.S.: maybe there is an error on the chat... you let us know that we can connect as guest, but all times I tried, this don't work, cause I don't have a nickname.

Thanks a lot in advance for your help!

Answers could be send to tricotvanille2003@hotmail.com, or directly to the member Electro l.i.b

== Spam & blocking users/IP ==

On the "Recent changes" page, I see there's a lot of spam-fighting going on. It's good that LGW is being valiantly defended against the incessant spam bots, but I think the Abuse filter is sometimes a little quick to block well meaning users. The anonymous user recently working on the Liberated Pixel Cup page, and two weeks ago even the registered user Lanadapter got on the block list, presumably because they made a series of small edits in a short time. Would it be possible to differentiate a bit better between real editors and spammer, so that we don't turn down actual contributors (while keeping the spam out, of course)? -- [[User:StevenDH|StevenDH]] ([[User talk:StevenDH|talk]]) 15:24, 14 February 2017 (CET)

== Lists and categories ==

Wouldn't be better to direct the reader to categories of games, instead of lists of games by genre, like [[Roguelike games]]? The list can get easily outdated.

== Board games page broken ==

When I'm logged in, I can see an up-to-date version of [[Board games]], but when I'm not logged in, I can only see a very old version from 2013. Could the reason be that this page was protected in 2012? If yes, could you remove the protection or ensure otherwise that the autogeneration by the bot works again and the generated page is visible to all users? Thanks --[[User:Blokusguy|Blokusguy]] ([[User talk:Blokusguy|talk]]) 07:42, 29 July 2017 (CEST)

== How to add a game? ==

Hi,

I'm an indie game developer. I just released a GPL game. I looked around but don't see how to add an article here. Are there instructions, or does it require permissions?

Thank you!